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Who's excited for Warrens' return?

me
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me
- 2 (4%)
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- 5 (10%)
help i'm trapped in a poll i don't know why i'm here i'm so scared someone please help
- 29 (58%)
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- 6 (12%)

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Author Topic: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome ???  (Read 3967506 times)

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5835 on: June 10, 2013, 12:00:41 am »

Now we just need the Expanded Shipping Grid.
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« Reply #5836 on: June 10, 2013, 06:41:26 am »

Yes. I must know what Mili would have thought of Yaos. They would make a good couple.

Expand the shipping grid.
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« Reply #5837 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:18 am »

Check shipping grid menu!
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5838 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:50 am »

I get the feeling FFS will say we need to steal the Voice's shipping grid first or something. :P
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5839 on: June 10, 2013, 11:37:10 am »

We should add that to our list of stuff to do. "Steal Voice's Advanced Shipping Grid"

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5840 on: June 10, 2013, 07:38:55 pm »

Hm, you know... I don't think we ever thought about why Proxxy hates Al. We literally never gave it a second glance.
Presumably, either he's a juvinile delinquent minus the juvenile, he tried to hit on her, or she doesn't like people who kill Illborn.

also, Ciro cared more about Slog than he did about Rilitia, yet didn't care when Slog died.
We never saw Ciro's reaction to Riltia's death...

Behold!
Yippee!
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5841 on: June 10, 2013, 08:35:00 pm »

Hm, you know... I don't think we ever thought about why Proxxy hates Al. We literally never gave it a second glance.
Presumably, either he's a juvinile delinquent minus the juvenile, he tried to hit on her, or she doesn't like people who kill Illborn.
He killed her searchbot, she sent a bomb to his mailbox.
So, the first one.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5842 on: June 10, 2013, 10:11:24 pm »

Shades of the last, as well.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5843 on: June 10, 2013, 10:20:18 pm »

Did some more work on the Advanced Navigation menu, currently indexed up to Chapter 2, Part 2. Here's little things I noticed in my binge.



Looks like Al has not, in fact, gone to Outer Underside before.



Well that's interesting. And ominous. Makes the Underside seem a bit more... dystopian.

And oh hey, that plush cat was given to Proxxy by Cherish, which is how those values got started on the Shipping Grid.



So, Cherish is the active PoV. Is that Soul Charge hers, or Ciro's?

And could this upcoming boss battle feature the return... of Cool Crab!?!

EDIT: Also it occurs to me that our successful Theorycrafting increased the capabilities of two Soul Stars we know to be in enemy possession. So hopefully that doesn't bite us in the ass.

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« Reply #5844 on: June 10, 2013, 10:34:28 pm »

It doesn't seem like it could hurt us; unless Proxxy wants to change our perspective, or empower Cool Crab with some items..... Wait.....

SHE COULD EMPOWER COOL CRAB USING ILLBORN EXCHANGE!!! This might not end well for us(if it does what I think it does, which is using an item/reagent to empower a friendly Illborn)
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5845 on: June 10, 2013, 10:35:49 pm »

I still believe that its as a place to store and swap out friendly illborn.
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« Reply #5846 on: June 10, 2013, 10:38:06 pm »

I still believe that its as a place to store and swap out friendly illborn.
Then what about those two smaller slots on the Illborn exchange, big enough to fit an item?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5847 on: June 10, 2013, 10:42:19 pm »

Notably, Riltia takes love in and puts hate out (though in her defense without Slog she'd be getting nothing,) Ciro and Cherish also get more than they give, and Al breaks even. I'm amused that Al went from having all the ladies swoon over him in the first Shipping Grid, to having nobody but Ciro really like him. And Al likes Ciro more than Ciro likes Al (and more than Al likes Riltia, or Cherish...)

I did a PageRank-type thing and got these values:

Al: 40%
Cherish: -8%
Riltia: 50%
Ciro: 55%
Proxxy: -54%
Slog: 17%

Cherish's negative score comes from the fact that Proxxy likes Cherish, and nobody likes Proxxy (well, except Slog), so Proxxy must be WRONG about Cherish. :P

Actually, I'm not sure I discovered anything particularly interesting here; too much depends on how I adjust the weighting system to incorporate negative numbers, and intuitively -1*-1=1 ("the enemy of my enemy is my friend") doesn't make sense on the shipping grid.  The point I want to make, though, is that a "love" and a "hate" shouldn't just cancel out - they should both increase a "strength of feelings" score.

STRENGTH OF FEELINGS OUT:

Al: 9
Cherish: 1
Riltia: 6
Ciro: 6
Proxxy: 4
Slog: 18

STRENGTH OF FEELINGS IN:

Al: 9
Cherish: 5
Riltia: 7
Ciro: 8
Proxxy: 9
Slog: 6
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5848 on: June 11, 2013, 12:07:12 am »

STRENGTH OF FEELINGS OUT:
Al: 9
Cherish: 1
Riltia: 6
Ciro: 6
Proxxy: 4
Slog: 18
Slog is both Illborn and the character with the strongest feelings.
This amuses me.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Let's Get Al Back
« Reply #5849 on: June 11, 2013, 12:09:29 am »

One day he shall tunr into a beautiful metal slime and then there shall be only bliss. Bliss forever.
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