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[Xantalos]

I love this story, I love the work and best yet, I love how FFS planned all this all along O_o

His plans. They are phenomenal.

I haven't read it, but the whole Oric/Ciro thing may have been my doing.
Because I was the one who did that in the first place.
Yep.

[RanDomino]

I just read all 221 pages and feel the need to declare this here as I have no nearby mountain from which to shout it.

[Blade Master Model 42]

I just read all 221 pages and feel the need to declare this here as I have no nearby mountain from which to shout it.

I find that the steps of your local city hall work nicely for these situations. As a bonus, it also generates more bewildered bystanders.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Have we considered the possibility that the Red Soul Star belongs to someone we haven't seen yet?

[LordSlowpoke]

Have we considered the possibility that the Red Soul Star belongs to someone we haven't seen yet?

Have we considered the possibility that it belongs to Slog?

[GreatWyrmGold]

First off, Slog is a normal slime. Why would he have a soul star?

Second off, Slog is blue. Why would his soul star, if he had one, be red?

[LordSlowpoke]

Why would he have a soul star?
Why would his soul star, if he had one, be red?

The answer is simple. to fuck with us

[Brawler Mouse]

He's no normal slime. He's a slime in the Warrens of Oric the Awesome.

[Ochita]

no pretty sure he's just a normal slime. Plus he is just a mercenary, a side character if you will.
Plus you know soul stars seem to be pretty much things held only by siblings of Oric. Or at least linked closely to them.

[GreatWyrmGold]

He's no normal slime. He's a slime in the Warrens of Oric the Awesome.

Yes, but he's a normal slime in the Warrens.

[Greenstarfanatic]

I just read all 221 pages and feel the need to declare this here as I have no nearby mountain from which to shout it.

Good job! Now read Einsteinian Roulette!

It's on the RTD Subforum, and it's about 4 times as long as this.

Good LUUUUCK!

[javierpwn]

Spoiler: "Figuring out the Soul Stars" (click to show/hide)

Okay. We have seen five thus far.


Okay, so through-out the story there seems to be little doubt who the Blue Soul Star AKA the Astral Influx belongs to.

Ciro. Ciro finds it first and some early hints by the GM implies something bad were to happen if we were stupid enough to break it.
But to cap it off the above picture says that the Astral Influx's Soul Gauge is Ciro's Soul Gauge. Also:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=121809.msg3994004#msg3994004 There is a code here.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=121809.msg3994103#msg3994103 The solved cypher mentions that Astral Influx is Ciro's (and both by name).


As a result of the event surrounding its appearances there appears to also be no doubt who the White Soul Star AKA the Reverant Savior belongs to.

Rilita. Rilita never comes into contact with her Soul Star, but her dramatic transformations (cuz she had two) make it pretty apparent.

This part of this conversation seems to imply that the Soul Stars must be found like Ciro's. Perhaps this is part of the cycle. Either way the appearance of the Reverant Savior during Ciro's Over Soul seems to cap off the owner as Rilita.

Also as a bonus:

The computer mentions when Rilita died here, her soul was prematurely destroyed. It seems that if someone dies without their Soul Star in their possession or near them... shit happens. Also we can glean from this and part of the mysterious conversation that Rilitia was always meant to do this sooner or later. (So what you get to take away... DO NOT LET A CHARACTER DIE WITHOUT THEIR SOUL STAR AND DO NOT BREAK THE SOUL STAR. Also DO NOT CROSS THE STREAMS. IT WOULD BE BAD.)


The Yellow Soul Star is in Proxxy's possession and her symbol in [sinful] matches it's symbol.

The Mechanic: not a bad person, just kind of impatient and greedy. Since he/she is the First, that technically makes him/her the lowest on the chain of command, so he/she just does what people tell him/her to. Smart enough, though, to not free you.

The description of the mechanic fits and mentions the Mechanic being the First.


The First sibling is called down to [sinful]'s prison and is mentioned to have electrical specialty. At this point, I would say it is safe to say that

Proxxy fits this bill five ways to Sunday.

Now here's where it gets hard. So far people seem to have similar theories as to who the remaining Stars (Red and Green) belong to. Now so far either no one has gotten it right or the proof is lacking. So I'm trying to find this missing proof or at least draw attention to what is missing.

Okay. Most obviously

while the T symbol is on Cain's board... the symbol for the Green Star AKA Illborn Exchange is missing. This seems to hint at the possibility that this is Cain's Star. Okay a possibility. We know it was stolen by the Thief (the person matching the T symbol of the Red Star). Problem is we know that the Soul Star was given to Al by the Chief, but there is no way to prove the Chief is the Thief. But we can guess that an owner of a Soul Star would willingly give it up. As I mentioned above a Soul Star is connected to the person and if harm comes to either while separated... shit happens.

Now so is there anyway to prove that Cain and Illborn Exchange are connected. Well...   

The screen seems to imply that something may have happened to [sinful], but that he was safe. Now [sinful] is on DL3 and the breach was on DL2. The breach (if you read the monitors) refers to a breach of the cycle... not a breach between dungeon levels. So what could have put [sinful] in danger. Illborn Exchange was in DL2 and within the range of the breach (Rilita's soul being destroyed).


The fact that Proxxy left behind Cherish might be because she didn't want to bring Cherish and therefor Illborn Exchange to close to Cain... because chances are he could have used it to escape. At the same time though, she doesn't want to simply leave Cherish with two Soul Star completely unchecked (I imagine).

As for the Red Star other than the connection to the Thief... I got nothing. Its weird that it even shows up in the set during Ciro's Over Soul. I assume it has something to do with the Ciro's Astra Influx coming into close proximity to the other Soul Stars or their owners... but at what point did that happen with the Red Star. I think I've conclusively got all the evidence for Blue, White, and Yellow. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence for the Green Star, but nothing I feel makes it 100% tight... though I'm pretty sure from what I got that Illborn Exchange is Cain's Star. The Red Star is the anomaly... unless Ciro's contact with the Blue Chick (Floe?) has something to do with it...

Does anybody have any hints I might have missed...

JUst conributing to your theory

Spoiler: Proof that Oric can be the Thief (click to show/hide)

The Thief: You hate this person. He is the one who originally took your Soul Star and imprisoned you here for defying him. You actually aren't sure what you did to anger him so much, but maybe it had to do with killing people? Brutal, selfish murder usually makes people mad.

YOU are not the thief. The other one is the thief. You remember now. You cannot die here because the thief is going to live forever.

You cannot let the thief live forever.

Who do you think will live forever besides the owner of the dungeon. The first quote helps to explain that the Thief is an authority figure, someone of great power, as he can Imprison the guy killing siblings and even confiscated his soul star.
Which can also kind of help to disprove Chief being the thief.(I REPLACE THIS WITH THE "CHIEF IS THIEF" PART OF MY SOUL THOERIES!)

The statement where he is going to "live forever" probably also co-relates to the "Why does Oric want to kill Ciro" theory in some way as well.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I just read all 221 pages and feel the need to declare this here as I have no nearby mountain from which to shout it.

Good job! Now read Einsteinian Roulette!

It's on the RTD Subforum, and it's about 4 times as long as this.

Good LUUUUCK!

Actually longer, if you read all the threads. Something like 9-10 times as long.

Spoiler: "Figuring out the Soul Stars" (click to show/hide)

Okay. We have seen five thus far.


Okay, so through-out the story there seems to be little doubt who the Blue Soul Star AKA the Astral Influx belongs to.

Ciro. Ciro finds it first and some early hints by the GM implies something bad were to happen if we were stupid enough to break it.
But to cap it off the above picture says that the Astral Influx's Soul Gauge is Ciro's Soul Gauge. Also:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=121809.msg3994004#msg3994004 There is a code here.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=121809.msg3994103#msg3994103 The solved cypher mentions that Astral Influx is Ciro's (and both by name).


As a result of the event surrounding its appearances there appears to also be no doubt who the White Soul Star AKA the Reverant Savior belongs to.

Rilita. Rilita never comes into contact with her Soul Star, but her dramatic transformations (cuz she had two) make it pretty apparent.

This part of this conversation seems to imply that the Soul Stars must be found like Ciro's. Perhaps this is part of the cycle. Either way the appearance of the Reverant Savior during Ciro's Over Soul seems to cap off the owner as Rilita.

Also as a bonus:

The computer mentions when Rilita died here, her soul was prematurely destroyed. It seems that if someone dies without their Soul Star in their possession or near them... shit happens. Also we can glean from this and part of the mysterious conversation that Rilitia was always meant to do this sooner or later. (So what you get to take away... DO NOT LET A CHARACTER DIE WITHOUT THEIR SOUL STAR AND DO NOT BREAK THE SOUL STAR. Also DO NOT CROSS THE STREAMS. IT WOULD BE BAD.)


The Yellow Soul Star is in Proxxy's possession and her symbol in [sinful] matches it's symbol.

The Mechanic: not a bad person, just kind of impatient and greedy. Since he/she is the First, that technically makes him/her the lowest on the chain of command, so he/she just does what people tell him/her to. Smart enough, though, to not free you.

The description of the mechanic fits and mentions the Mechanic being the First.


The First sibling is called down to [sinful]'s prison and is mentioned to have electrical specialty. At this point, I would say it is safe to say that

Proxxy fits this bill five ways to Sunday.

Now here's where it gets hard. So far people seem to have similar theories as to who the remaining Stars (Red and Green) belong to. Now so far either no one has gotten it right or the proof is lacking. So I'm trying to find this missing proof or at least draw attention to what is missing.

Okay. Most obviously

while the T symbol is on Cain's board... the symbol for the Green Star AKA Illborn Exchange is missing. This seems to hint at the possibility that this is Cain's Star. Okay a possibility. We know it was stolen by the Thief (the person matching the T symbol of the Red Star). Problem is we know that the Soul Star was given to Al by the Chief, but there is no way to prove the Chief is the Thief. But we can guess that an owner of a Soul Star would willingly give it up. As I mentioned above a Soul Star is connected to the person and if harm comes to either while separated... shit happens.

Now so is there anyway to prove that Cain and Illborn Exchange are connected. Well...   

The screen seems to imply that something may have happened to [sinful], but that he was safe. Now [sinful] is on DL3 and the breach was on DL2. The breach (if you read the monitors) refers to a breach of the cycle... not a breach between dungeon levels. So what could have put [sinful] in danger. Illborn Exchange was in DL2 and within the range of the breach (Rilita's soul being destroyed).


The fact that Proxxy left behind Cherish might be because she didn't want to bring Cherish and therefor Illborn Exchange to close to Cain... because chances are he could have used it to escape. At the same time though, she doesn't want to simply leave Cherish with two Soul Star completely unchecked (I imagine).

As for the Red Star other than the connection to the Thief... I got nothing. Its weird that it even shows up in the set during Ciro's Over Soul. I assume it has something to do with the Ciro's Astra Influx coming into close proximity to the other Soul Stars or their owners... but at what point did that happen with the Red Star. I think I've conclusively got all the evidence for Blue, White, and Yellow. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence for the Green Star, but nothing I feel makes it 100% tight... though I'm pretty sure from what I got that Illborn Exchange is Cain's Star. The Red Star is the anomaly... unless Ciro's contact with the Blue Chick (Floe?) has something to do with it...

Does anybody have any hints I might have missed...

Spoiler: Proof that Oric can be the Thief (click to show/hide)

The Thief: You hate this person. He is the one who originally took your Soul Star and imprisoned you here for defying him. You actually aren't sure what you did to anger him so much, but maybe it had to do with killing people? Brutal, selfish murder usually makes people mad.

YOU are not the thief. The other one is the thief. You remember now. You cannot die here because the thief is going to live forever.

You cannot let the thief live forever.

Who do you think will live forever besides the owner of the dungeon. The first quote helps to explain that the Thief is an authority figure, someone of great power, as he can Imprison the guy killing siblings and even confiscated his soul star.
Which can also kind of help to disprove Chief being the thief.(I REPLACE THIS WITH THE "CHIEF IS THIEF" PART OF MY SOUL THOERIES!)

The statement where he is going to "live forever" probably also co-relates to the "Why does Oric want to kill Ciro" theory in some way as well.

Neat.
Maybe The Target is the only person who can kill The Thief?

[javierpwn]

That or he is using the Soul CHarge of Ciro's soul to charge his own soul star up, in order to give himself power, and live forever.
Which may explain why Ciro's soul star was in contact with it in the first place.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I wonder if we could do the same with Oric's soul star...