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Who's excited for Warrens' return?

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Author Topic: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome ???  (Read 3919885 times)

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: THE CROSSOVERENA
« Reply #2145 on: March 20, 2013, 12:43:54 pm »

What was it mom always told me...?


Oh yeah! It was "Always let Mercenaries solve puzzles!" What else are we paying them for?

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2146 on: March 20, 2013, 12:45:46 pm »

Pls no sending slog to do puzzle

Pls no.

Instead, lets try doing..
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Or something like that. Maybe a good thing to do is to move the red down by one, and then exit/reenter the room. If this is a puzzle that we can keep on redoing, thats good, if its not then we'll just have to be careful about it all.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2147 on: March 20, 2013, 01:05:06 pm »

Pls no sending slog to do puzzle

Pls no.

Instead, lets try doing..
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Or something like that. Maybe a good thing to do is to move the red down by one, and then exit/reenter the room. If this is a puzzle that we can keep on redoing, thats good, if its not then we'll just have to be careful about it all.

If this is a sokoban puzzle, we probably can't move the pink and purple pieces like that because of their locations. If we can't pull the pieces then the purple one can only go up or down, (Or maybe through the door...) and once the pink one is against the top wall it will be stuck there. If pulling is allowed, we probably still can't pull a piece into a square we occupy, meaning we'd have to get the blue piece out of the way to make it work.

But I see where you're going with it. Putting green adjacent to blue and yellow, purple adjacent to blue and red, and so on. The order should be White, Pink, Red, Purple, Blue, Green, Yellow. But the pluses and minuses are still unaccounted for...
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2148 on: March 20, 2013, 01:14:55 pm »

That's where my idea comes in. Treat it like electrical wires. Negative has to go with positive. Negative CANNOT be adjacent to another Negative, as with Positive and Positive.
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« Reply #2149 on: March 20, 2013, 01:26:24 pm »

That's where my idea comes in. Treat it like electrical wires. Negative has to go with positive. Negative CANNOT be adjacent to another Negative, as with Positive and Positive.

Which makes sense, but doesn't work with the previous solution. If yellow and green are adjacent, for instance, then that's two adjacent pluses.

Maybe we just can't walk between a plus and a minus without getting electrocuted? Hmmmm...

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2150 on: March 20, 2013, 01:53:50 pm »

That's where my idea comes in. Treat it like electrical wires. Negative has to go with positive. Negative CANNOT be adjacent to another Negative, as with Positive and Positive.

Which makes sense, but doesn't work with the previous solution. If yellow and green are adjacent, for instance, then that's two adjacent pluses.

Maybe we just can't walk between a plus and a minus without getting electrocuted? Hmmmm...
I still don't follow your previous solution. What gave you that color order?

I'm starting to like arranging them in an alternating line. I don't trust ignoring colors, but it's possible they're just shaded for ID purposes. Of course, we'll have to fiddle with it enough to see if there's any restrictions on pushing them (and if we can pull them).

Walking between doesn't make any sense as a restriction because most of them are facing walls; we'd literally never have to just to get across the room.


What was it mom always told me...?


Oh yeah! It was "Always let Mercenaries solve puzzles!" What else are we paying them for?

Set Slog at puzzle. (I always wanted to see Satan soil himself laughing...)
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I very nearly suggested this for precisely this reason, but decided on a test move instead. I'm still somewhat torn on that, not that it matters against such overwhelming support.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2151 on: March 20, 2013, 02:03:49 pm »

((Everyone's overthinking this. There isn't a clear solution to the puzzle because you haven't yet found a clear solution to the puzzle. I wouldn't ever make a puzzle that required everyone to swap things around via trial and error for 5 days without any logic to it whatsoever. That said, you're on the right track, and update coming later.))
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2152 on: March 20, 2013, 02:28:53 pm »

That's where my idea comes in. Treat it like electrical wires. Negative has to go with positive. Negative CANNOT be adjacent to another Negative, as with Positive and Positive.

Which makes sense, but doesn't work with the previous solution. If yellow and green are adjacent, for instance, then that's two adjacent pluses.

Maybe we just can't walk between a plus and a minus without getting electrocuted? Hmmmm...
I still don't follow your previous solution. What gave you that color order?

Well, He made it that the coulours on the outside of the secondary colours are the ones that create them. Red and White, with pink in the middle, Red and Blue with Purple in the middle, and Blue and Yellow with Green in the middle.

Maybe we shouldn't try to figure it out yet. At all. Go with Ironyowl, just try pushing something.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2153 on: March 20, 2013, 02:39:00 pm »

The -+-+-+- pattern is easy enough to test.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2154 on: March 20, 2013, 03:08:02 pm »

The -+-+-+- pattern is easy enough to test.
The colors matter though, I'd wager. However, there isn't a way to arrange it in a line where there is no negative nor positive touching another similar, based on color... We are probably over thinking this, as FFR said. Hm. What if we're suppose to make the charges neutral instead? I wonder if we can push a positive into a negative. Maybe we can combine the red and the blue to make a neutral purple?

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« Reply #2155 on: March 20, 2013, 03:10:23 pm »

We can't make them all neutral because there's one extra negative.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2156 on: March 20, 2013, 03:11:01 pm »

We can't make them all neutral because there's one extra negative.
Damn, you're right... Push the purple off the screen then? One less negative.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2157 on: March 20, 2013, 03:12:09 pm »

Why not just put +s on one side, and -s on the other?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2158 on: March 20, 2013, 03:40:34 pm »

But that wouldn't be a logical solution. Division only works with an even number of objects. Alternation would be our best bet. All we need to figure out, is the colour order.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Slog is the new Cool Crab
« Reply #2159 on: March 20, 2013, 03:52:31 pm »

Let's see the results of our current experimentation before going nuts with theories ...
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