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[GreatWyrmGold]

There's nothing to say that Milli didn't sic the Astral Influx on us.

Nothing to say she did, however.

Spoiler: theorycrafting (click to show/hide)

Why Ciro had internal bleeding during the Mets fight:
I think it isn't just that Tactical Combat was activated, but that It was activated by MegaMan (who has no soul) WITHOUT ANY SOUL CHARGE BEING USED UP. The event took place in the arena/megamanworld universe 'collision', evidently preventing more serious effects from the fundemental rules of the universe being messed up. This caused something, be it a dimensional shockwave or whatever, which only Ciro was sensitive enough to for visible effects. (I'm pretty sure that others have given reasons why Ciro is more sensitive over previous theorycrafting theories, so I'm not going into that.

What do you think?

Increased sensitivity just means Ciro would be affected more, not that she'd be the only one affected. Moreover, the pain went away almost instantly--why?

Something tells me that FFS is laughing his ass off reading these theories because we are way off base.

I wonder what he thought about my theory about HC.

and finally, who the hell are our parents? They raised the most effed up bunch of kids ever.

Isn't it obvious? We are our parents!

Yes, I'm joking.

Unless*Dramatic Pause|Plot Twist* WE AREN'T ACTUALLY RELATED!!!
Also:Reading through the updates, we can see that the skill tree can upgrade abilities; place acid and Growth into Tree

I'm temped to say that we should wait, but it will free up two slots and help us learn more. I agree, because we don't particularly need either reagent.

True. And, whatever happens, it'll probably be interesting and might give us insight into how the Tree works. +1

Spoiler: Angels (click to show/hide)

In Bible-Lore; angels are beings that live within the kingdom of God, and interact with mortals on occassion to guide them through life. They also work to protect the Kingdom of Heaven.
The Warrens has several allusions to this, the first being a kingdom above, with a ruler and all. Based on this, you could say that the 'Angels' came from the kingdom of Haria, and work directly for the King. BetweenFord, during the Prologue(Angel.Html) states that he "fears for his king",meaning BetweenFord's master is truly the King of Haria.

If his Master is the King, and the Warrens is considered to be a prison(For the siblings and ¿OverSoul?) Then the Angels might be the true 'Guards' of the Prison, seemingly controlling every aspect of the Prison(probably using their code, which was cracked by the Voice). They also might be in control of the Angel statues, as both Spira(Scrapped Proto-Oric) and the Statues seem to hold a grudge against Rilitia.


The second picture also helps to say that Spira is in league with the other angels, probably to overthrow Oric as the Warren or something(as the decrypted code has a message of this cycle being Oric's last)

Interesting...

[javierpwn]

It's a skill tree! Lets us create and upgrade skills using common reagents/essences!(We could have used the essence of slime for something cool)

[GreatWyrmGold]

It's a skill tree! Lets us create and upgrade skills using common reagents/essences!(We could have used the essence of slime for something cool)

Maybe we'll be able to salvage it, should the resurrection not go as intended. Unless it creates a Not!Slog, in which case we lost our investment and gained the financial equivalent of a bright pink Bengal tiger.

[monk12]

Spoiler: Do we know if Oric is the thief? (click to show/hide)

Yes.

Unnamed hammer-shaped soul star does belong to Oric. It's worth noting that, as a symbol, references how he rules with an iron fist (as hinted by Proxxy). He is, essentially, the judge of the Siblings' fate (shown by Cain - "the Thief"/the person with the mallet soul star banished him to the prison as punishment). Fitting with the final arbiter/judge theme, the hammer represents a judge's traditional gavel. I'm not sure there's much I can say here other than what everyone else has determined. This is the Warrens of Oric the Awesome, and the hammer (or permutations of it) have appeared, in some way, on every single dungeon level Ciro has visited so far.

As an interesting tidbit: the part how those five Soul Stars were owned by Siblings Ciro had come in contact with was entirely correct. That's not to say they were the only Soul Stars he'd come in contact with, but it does reveal a minor hint to more theorycrafting: Ciro had come in contact with Oric in some way before then.

Also note the hint in the last paragraph.  There is lots of implication in there, and is probably something worth searching up.

I think that's my new private TheoryQuest- When did we encounter (however indirectly) Oric BEFORE the Oversoul segment?

[GreatWyrmGold]

I can't think of anything, but if something comes up during my Troping archive binge I'll let you know.

[Harbingerjm]

Spoiler: Do we know if Oric is the thief? (click to show/hide)

Yes.

Unnamed hammer-shaped soul star does belong to Oric. It's worth noting that, as a symbol, references how he rules with an iron fist (as hinted by Proxxy). He is, essentially, the judge of the Siblings' fate (shown by Cain - "the Thief"/the person with the mallet soul star banished him to the prison as punishment). Fitting with the final arbiter/judge theme, the hammer represents a judge's traditional gavel. I'm not sure there's much I can say here other than what everyone else has determined. This is the Warrens of Oric the Awesome, and the hammer (or permutations of it) have appeared, in some way, on every single dungeon level Ciro has visited so far.

As an interesting tidbit: the part how those five Soul Stars were owned by Siblings Ciro had come in contact with was entirely correct. That's not to say they were the only Soul Stars he'd come in contact with, but it does reveal a minor hint to more theorycrafting: Ciro had come in contact with Oric in some way before then.

Also note the hint in the last paragraph.  There is lots of implication in there, and is probably something worth searching up.

I think that's my new private TheoryQuest- When did we encounter (however indirectly) Oric BEFORE the Oversoul segment?

It seems extremely unlikely, but we're not sure who that Soul Star in the machine belonged to, and they seem to change appearance as they level up...

[Xanmyral]

I said it before, I'll say it again. The merchants are Oric in disguise.

[monk12]

I said it before, I'll say it again. The merchants are Oric in disguise.

Silly us, we thought Oric might be farming us for Soul Charge, but actually he's just a regular old gold farmer!

Or, alternately, it's a hobby. Y'know, can't spend all your time with vaguely ominous dialogue and implicit threats.

[freeformschooler]

I said it before, I'll say it again. The merchants are Oric in disguise.

Oh, how you guys are going to LOVE dungeon level 3.

Speaking of which, update soon but not tonight.

[IronyOwl]

I think that's my new private TheoryQuest- When did we encounter (however indirectly) Oric BEFORE the Oversoul segment?

Hm... maybe the statue?

Supposedly the hammer symbol is everywhere, I guess we could go back and sift through looking for that.

I said it before, I'll say it again. The merchants are Oric in disguise.

Egads, it'd explain everything. Their arbitrary dickishness, their extreme similarity, their access to items of great power, their presumed untouchability...

I said it before, I'll say it again. The merchants are Oric in disguise.

Oh, how you guys are going to LOVE dungeon level 3.

...well that's ominous.

[Toaster]

Open Quest Log.


I read back through at all of what Alive Ciro encountered between game start and the OS Teleport.  It really wasn't much since he was dead for so much of it.

Spoiler: Here's a list (click to show/hide)

Ciro
Spider
Shopkeeper (DL1)
Angel Statue
Riltia
Betweenford
3x Searchbot Room
Gelatinous Cube
Proxxy
Al
Shopkeeper (Underside)
Mili
2x Searchbots of +2 Ciro Murdering
--CIRO DIES--  #267


--CIRO REBORN-- #837
Comm Sphere
Circuitrix
Rilibots
Storage Guard
Blue Girl With Big Gun
Weird Vingette in Post 1229
Rilibot of +2 Al Murdering
Weird Melting of Dead Rilibot (Post 1290)
OverSoul
--Evidence of Oric Contact-- #1316

Now I'm not saying it didn't happen while he was dead, but that'd be a bit silly.  I didn't think to check around for the Hammer symbol- derp.  Next time.

[hops]

I can totally buy that

Enemy getting dangerously close to your lair? Why? Easy, just RAISE THE PRICE OF POTIONS.

[IronyOwl]

Hrm. Could that have been a reference to interacting with Proxxy, then? She's his underling, so strictly speaking that'd count as very removed interaction...

Of course, you could say the same about searchbots, I suppose.

[Toaster]

And Riltia, for that matter.


And Ciro shimself.

[Xanmyral]

I honestly thought FFS was talking about the teleporter pad in dungeon level one, or Betweenford. Both of them were things I don't think he overall expected us to do, and I still can't help but feel there's more meaning to the first meeting with Betweenford than is perceived.