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[Flying Dice]

What if the Middle Earth in question were one united in a meritocracy under the benevolent rule of the populist, technology-friendly Sauron? Imagine, an entire continent of Men, Dwarves, Orcs, and Halflings, all with, say, a 30 Years War level of technology and military doctrine.

[Sirus]

That is, of course, assuming that Sauron would actually be benevolent and not simply burn Middle Earth to ash for the evulz.

[Onyxjew944]

What if the Middle Earth in question were one united in a meritocracy under the benevolent rule of the populist, technology-friendly Sauron? Imagine, an entire continent of Men, Dwarves, Orcs, and Halflings, all with, say, a 30 Years War level of technology and military doctrine.

I take it the Elves all quit?

In any case, did magic die out? The dragons? I'm imagining with GoT's lack of those being pretty crippling in the long run. Well, lack of them sans the three Dany has stashed away and whatever you call wildfire.

Then again, with Westerosi actually understanding tactics that the average Total War player can approve of whereas Middle Earth is still at glorified linear warfare, wait. Would the GoT universe be similarly united? As in, Dothraki, Free Cities, and Westeros all being the same entity? Come to think of it, do you throw in the giants and other mystical wonders of Beyond-the-Wall?

I could see this actually being a pretty epic battle.

[Loud Whispers]

That is, of course, assuming that Sauron would actually be benevolent and not simply burn Middle Earth to ash for the evulz.

The only reason he wants to do that is to ensure sustainable crop farming. Sauron feeds his armies without "chips" or wasteful lembas, all in a volcanic wasteland no less!
Is there no better leader, one whose healthcare system is so advanced it grants immortality?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I could see this actually being a pretty epic battle.

That is, if you don't involve the (Was it Valar?) out in the west of the world before the sinking of (Numinor?)

(It's been awhile since I read the Silmarillion.)

[Xantalos]

Dresden's usually also packing mundane weapons and has a variety of contacts and allies. He really can't claim to have the backing of the mages in general, atleast not in the earlier books I'm at, though.

Not having read Skulduggery, they sound fairly similar (dunno about the power level with magic here). Also, how did this immediately devolve into a fight? I'm sure they'd rather team up.

They would probably team up, though Skul's much more violently horribly insane.
In a fight I'd say that while Dresden might have the advantage at long range, Skul would take him apart in melee.
This is, of course, assuming they're both standard power level (no super power ups or

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Winter Knight

for Harry, no

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Lord Vile

for Skulduggery.

[Flying Dice]

I was assuming a Middle Earth united under Sauron, with all the Elves, Valar, Maiar, and associated froofy magic gone over the sea. Dragons and such would likely still be around, though pretty darned rare. Take that and give it a connection to Westeros. The Ice & Fire types would probably do much better in terms of tactical action and strategic planning, but Sauron could set up fuckhuge amounts of infrastructure and build massive armies if there weren't conservative terrorists constantly destroying his national relics and oppressing his followers.

An additional note: Magic in Westeros is actually remarkably similar to magic in Middle Earth, in the sense that it's usually fairly subtle stuff, rather than "LIGHTNING BOLT! METEOR SWARM! BIGSBY'S VIOLATING TOUCH!". Sauron would have experience with that sort of supernatural trickery, and would possibly have some of his own, but it isn't the sort of thing that can curbstomp things left and right.

A lot would also depend on how much time has passed since the victory of Sauron over the reactionary forces of stagnation; a decade at the least for stabilization. Give him closer to a quarter of a century and his troops would probably be armed with repeating crossbows, high-quality steel blades, and early firearms. The only reason the Orcs were using crappy swords and bloody awful bows was because the racists in Gondor were deliberately blocking their attempts to gain a supply of good material, in order to perpetuate their bigoted hegemony.

[Morrigi]

Inquisition vs. Jedi? That would be interesting. 'Course they'd probably just sic the Deathwatch or the Adepta Sororitas on them and call it a day.

[Lightningfalcon]

Something I was discussing from a friend.  Who would win, the Mobile Infantry (Starship Troopers) or the Spartans IIs (Halo)? 
I'm fairly confident that with both sides full kitted, it'd be the MI by a landslide (Fast reflexes won't do shit if ou got an atomic bomb headed your way), but if you give both sides the same equipment the edge would go to the Spartans. 

[OREOSOME]

I must say that from what I've seen of the MI in Starship Troopers, the Spartans seem like they kill with much more ease. But then, you should also factor in the fact that the carapace of the Bugs is obviously supposed to be more protective than the best armor the Federation can field, so the Morita might actually be a lot more effective against humans, as opposed to the bugs.

[Frumple]

... pretty sure O was talking about the ones from the book. And yeah, a full kit MI from the book would probably be able to wreck a Spartan. I'd give 'em pretty good odds, anyway. Nukes, nukes, everywhere.

[Sirus]

We talking book MI or movie MI? IIRC, book MI are equipped with mecha that can travel at ludicrous speeds, jump through the air, and are equipped with heavy weapons. A far cry from the movie with hordes of expendable troops.

[Flying Dice]

They don't have mecha, just absurdly good power armor with integrated jump jets. Their last-resort weapon is a flamethrower, and they carry multiple tactical nuclear weapons as part of a fairly normal kit. The movie is completely unrelated to the book, and the MI in it are basically Imperial Guard with worse guns.

[Xantalos]

Far greater camp powers, though.

[Morrigi]

Can MI exahcute Multahple, Simal-taneoush and Devashtating Defensive Deep Strikes? We cahl this manuvah SHTEHL REHN!