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[Xantalos]

Who knows. Maybe the Force is really just the way pskyer powers manifest in SW. Obviously there wouldn't be too much looking into it for other purposes, seeing as how they already have better FTL. But think about the Imperials' (40K) reaction.

'You mean their version of the Warp is undevastated? TIME TO RUIN IT FOR THEM'

[Frumple]

Yeah, WH40k psykers ending up in a "calm" warp is a pretty common thing with WH40k crossovers. Cue the psykers going whee, the astropaths probably freaking out a bit (no astronomicon, which means their FTL is probably still shafted), and the presence of powerful psykers probably causing the Warp to start to happily un-untaint itself

Mostly depends on how they play the warp, really. Untainted doesn't necessarily mean there's nothing out there, after all. At most, it'd probably mean nothing on the scale of the Chaos Gods, which leaves plenty of room for daemons to still be around.

'Course, you could have some real fun and throw a Chaos group into the calm warp instead. That's a happy recipe for some delightful fanwarkery as everything promptly turns to chaos!shit.

Who knows. Maybe the Force is really just the way pskyer powers manifest in SW. Obviously there wouldn't be too much looking into it for other purposes, seeing as how they already have better FTL. But think about the Imperials' (40K) reaction.

Ehn... it's not entirely impossible, actually. There's some aspects of the force that mimic how the Warp's supposed to react, particularly the way it can linger in areas, but it's... unlikely. From what I remember of SW lore, if they were actually dealing with the warp they would have birthed a Chaos god or two already. Daemons are by and large naturally forming around emotional and/or psychically powerful creatures.

[Xantalos]

So the Jedi are really daemons possessing a fetus?

[Hanslanda]

Who knows. Maybe the Force is really just the way pskyer powers manifest in SW. Obviously there wouldn't be too much looking into it for other purposes, seeing as how they already have better FTL. But think about the Imperials' (40K) reaction.

'You mean their version of the Warp is undevastated? TIME TO RUIN IT FOR THEM'

And that's how the first Grey Knight was corrupted... Trying to ruin Star Wars. God I'm going to write the FUCK OUT OF THIS STORY.

[Flying Dice]

I hate talking about 40K/SW crossovers, because practically all of the terminology is the same.

What sort of restrictions on the Jedi? Because I can easily see one spamming Force Lightning or Force Choke. Hell, even holding the Marine in place with the Force and doing the old Lightsaber-boomerang trick. Of course if the Marine was a decent shot the Jedi would be fucked; I don't think a lightsaber can deflect heavy bolt rounds or a melta blast. 

Against a psyker it would probably be a tossup. A decently powerful pskyer can do nasty things, but then so can a Jedi. :|

[Hanslanda]

Restrictions on the Jedi: He must be only mid-power level. Let's say about as powerful as Obi-Wan in the PT, Attack of the Clones. Powerful, but totally beatable. He has a lightsaber and the assorted gadgets of a Jedi, but no CRAZY MAD POWAH or force lightning. He's a good guy.

Restrictions on the Psyker: Epsilon level or below. May be armed however he wishes within reason (No full scale melta, no cannons or crew-served weapons). No powered armor unless he's an Inquisitor.

The arena is a small stone arena about fifty meters across with about ten columns scattered about for cover.

READY SET GO!

[Frumple]

Wait, wait. Given that, when a force weapon meets a lightsaber, what happens?

[Sirus]

We can assume that a power weapon and a lightsaber would stop each other, as they both do basically the same thing (energy cuts through anything but is stopped by other energy).

[Aklyon]

But what about magnetically limited energy? (or whatever was the specific term for "how lightsabers don't extend into the walls")

[Hanslanda]

Wait, wait. Given that, when a force weapon meets a lightsaber, what happens?

They negate the bullshit that powers them. They simply strike each other, as hand to hand weapons should. No bullshit, that's it. Sparks, maybe.

[Flying Dice]

Wait, wait. Given that, when a force weapon meets a lightsaber, what happens?

They negate the bullshit that powers them. They simply strike each other, as hand to hand weapons should. No bullshit, that's it. Sparks, maybe.

And the "pshaw!" sound. You can't have that fight without the "pshaw!" sound.

[Frumple]

Mm... yeah, if it's just a goody-two-shoes Jedi, I'd probably wager in favor of the Psyker, depending on what the critter can do. Some quick reminderin' of what they're capable of is, uh. I mean, yeah, some of them can just do the force choke thing, or go straight to the point and make hearts explode. And I'm faaairly sure that's epsilon and below. Plus force lightning is something even the good guy psykers kinda' throw around like candy.

I'd need like a list of powers or something to weigh in on it meaningfully. Psykers in general tend to be a bit less constrained the force users, from what I remember. They've potentially got most of what Jedi do, plus a little bit.

So, Psyker wins the fight, but the disruption of force powers slamming head first into warp manipulation causes th'psyker to get possessed, ultimately spiraling into a series of unfortunate events that turns the hosting planet into a daemonworld.

[Hanslanda]

I dislike how the Force is classified into 'powers'. It's the Force. Jedi can manipulate it in whatever manner they choose. It's just apparently that Jedi are very uncreative and go 'Telekinesis. That's all I need.'

[Frumple]

Yeah, gets annoying. Even given a more fluid force use, that... basically matches them up with psyker fluidity (at least unless the psyker's limited to a particular capability set, anyway), except the psyker can also open up rifts in reality and let spew forth psychic doom predators. Plus the whole even-good-guy-psykers-set-off-tiny-warp-storms-in-peoples-brains-for-fun thing.

[Hanslanda]

Most of the WH books I've read seem to make Psykers seem very individual. Each one does something special in their own way. Some can throw fire, and some can shoot lightning, and some can turn roam around the warp in a psychic manifestation fucking shit up. It's interesting.