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[Aerie]

Most people will just say "Non-religious" or not practicing because of how stigmatized the word "Atheist" is.

This, pretty much. The term "atheist" reminds me of someone who actively and hatefully attacks all organized religion simply because it is organized religion (don't believe me? go look at r/atheism.) That, and it's too commonly used as a synonym for "non-religious", which, as I've said a couple posts ago, isn't true.

agnostics logically come to the conclusion of "I can't know,"

Agnostics essentially say "I don't know whether God exists or not, and we'll probably never know, but given the circumstances and the lack of evidence supporting it, I'm pretty sure it's not the case."

In my opinion, this probably the most rational way to approach theism rather than "GOD DOESN'T EXIST AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE IS IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of atheists) or "GOD EXISTS AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE ISN'T IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of theists).

[Leafsnail]

In my opinion, this probably the most rational way to approach theism rather than "GOD DOESN'T EXIST AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE IS IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of atheists) or "GOD EXISTS AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE ISN'T IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of theists).

Can you not see the irony in this sentence?

[Aerie]

In my opinion, this probably the most rational way to approach theism rather than "GOD DOESN'T EXIST AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE IS IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of atheists) or "GOD EXISTS AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE ISN'T IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: majority of theists).

Can you not see the irony in this sentence?

I don't care if people believe or disbelieve in God. But I will take offense to people that try to shove their beliefs or lack thereof down other people's throats.

[Max White]

"GOD DOESN'T EXIST AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE IS IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: loudest atheists) or "GOD EXISTS AND EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES HE ISN'T IS AN UNEDUCATED MORON" (see: fundamentalists).

Fix'd.

To judge a collective based on its most radical members is a logical fallacy.

[Aerie]

To judge a collective based on its most radical members is a logical fallacy.

To assume an argument has a false conclusion because it contains a fallacy is a logical fallacy.

[USEC_OFFICER]

To judge a collective based on its most radical members is a logical fallacy.

To assume an argument has a false conclusion because it contains a fallacy is a logical fallacy.

However the fallacy does mean that the argument itself is false/improper/incorrect, meaning the conclusion's correctness will have to be proved/disproven with another argument.

[Max White]

To assume an argument has a false conclusion because it contains a fallacy is a logical fallacy.

But I can use that exact same argument to point out why pointing out that my argument contains a logically fallacy in pointing out a fallacy doesn't in fact oh fuck this. Just fuck this.

I am not engaging in a cluster fuck of recursive logical fallacies.

[Leafsnail]

In railing against being too quick to call other people stupid and shoving beliefs down people's throats you're a) labeling the "majority" of atheists and theists (and therefore the majority of humanity, I guess) as stupid assholes and b) aggressively bringing up your views on the subject for no real reason and in an inappropriate venue.

[Aerie]

labeling . . . the majority of humanity . . . as stupid assholes

Pretty much, yeah.

I guess maybe I should have refined my previous statements as "don't call specific people stupid."

[Cthulhu]

How did we get on this discussion again?  In a thread that isn't about this?

On topic (Off topic) I just tell people I worship the devil now.  It's not true, but it shuts them up. 

So what, you think you can talk shit about the majority of humanity because "the majority of humanity" isn't a person who can get mad at you for it?

[Max White]

It is great to sit back and say 'The majority of people X'
Because by having the insight and wisdom to make that statement, you are clearly exempt from the majority, and anybody who tried to argue is just some pleb who is clearly guilty of X and has no right to a valid opinion.

Watch!
The majority of people are blatant pedophiles! We should do something about this problem! Anybody who says otherwise is just a sick pedophile trying to cover up their own crimes!


Freud would be proud.

[Cthulhu]

I'm real damn sick of the hoi polloi, you've got that part right.  If people just upheld my unrealistic standards that I don't hold myself to, the world would be a much better place.

[misko27]

And this is why thinking all of humanity is trash is consistiently the best philosophy. You accept that all standards are unrealistically high, and humans are inherently going to suck to a great extent, and you are so much happier.

[Jervill]

That only works to an extent Misko, and we should always endeavor to better ourselves even when we know we may fail at times.

On another note, am I the only person who has noticed that in every single thread Aerie is in she is needlessly aggressive and seems to be just itching for a fight?

[FearfulJesuit]

That only works to an extent Misko, and we should always endeavor to better ourselves even when we know we may fail at times.

On another note, am I the only person who has noticed that in every single thread Aerie is in she is needlessly aggressive and seems to be just itching for a fight?

Quick, guys, spot the hypocrisy!