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[taldarus]

*Sleepily stares at screen*

Thanks for the link, and a beta version sounds cool. So badly want to work on this, but must wait for sleep.

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[Dirst]

Most recent spawn-unit as far as I know: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139553.msg6197007#msg6197007

If you can make a fully-automated version of spawn-unit with viewscreen_layer_arena_creaturest which works in all cases I would jump up and down with joy.

I should come into this thread more often.  That is the latest version of spawn-unit I know of except for fixing a typo in line 413, it should read

if args.civ_id then args.civ_id = tonumber(args.civ_id) end

Putnam had mentioned that Sparking might have a version that returns the unit ID.  Haven't had a chance to check that out yet, but it would be useful for fiddling with the spawned creature's mind (setting to attack a specific creature, etc.).

[Meph]

I'd personally like to add a suggestion:
Add equipment and location to the spawned unit.

This way we can fix/work around the lack of invaders in 40.24. We just spawn entire groups of enemies, complete with armor and weapons.

[Dirst]

I'd personally like to add a suggestion:
Add equipment and location to the spawned unit.

This way we can fix/work around the lack of invaders in 40.24. We just spawn entire groups of enemies, complete with armor and weapons.

Location is already one of the parameters.  Equipment is beyond my DFHackery skills, though there are two or three create-item variants none of them seems to be able to put equipment on a unit.

[mifki]

With viewscreen_layer_arena_creaturest approach it's very easy to add equipment.

[StagnantSoul]

One to change the quality of enhancements on items. I can go k-change item-q-5 and it'll still have superior encrusts and such.

[Dirst]

With viewscreen_layer_arena_creaturest approach it's very easy to add equipment.

There are a number of issues with spawning intelligent creatures, at least if you want them to function as citizens of a civ.  The script above (if hacked to allow it) can spawn a new member of the fort, but he/she has no preferences or dreams or relationships.

Spawned creatures can be adopted as pets, so they can make NEW relationships.  The problem is that they start out with a slate that's a bit too blank.

Given those limitations, no one delved into equipment.

[mifki]

With viewscreen_layer_arena_creaturest approach it's very easy to add equipment.

There are a number of issues with spawning intelligent creatures, at least if you want them to function as citizens of a civ.  The script above (if hacked to allow it) can spawn a new member of the fort, but he/she has no preferences or dreams or relationships.

Spawned creatures can be adopted as pets, so they can make NEW relationships.  The problem is that they start out with a slate that's a bit too blank.

Given those limitations, no one delved into equipment.

New dwarves created with viewscreen_layer_arena_creaturest have preferences.
But no relationships of course because it doesn't create a histfig.  On the other hand, relationships totally depend on what you're creating (civ member, pet, invader), so can't be created fully automatically.

[taldarus]

hafta re-write this...

Dirst- Your code sounds perfect, gonna study it. Have very little clue how to use it of course, but thats part of the fun

Meph- Try building in organic weapons? They wouldn't be lootable, but you could actually add the item as a part of the corpse? Something like:

body:Sworddwarf
   [BP:SW:sword:swords][CON:Right_hand][CATEGORY:STEELWEAPON][DEFAULT_RELSIZE:?]

Then you should be able to alter the materials of the steel weapon to match up with a 'real' one. I could have done this pre v.34, and could try to though together a demo if you wanted. ( I like my mod, but I really can't play w/o Masterwork

A link to something like this, but way out of date (I did this w/o internet, btw and am super proud):http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=124299.msg4129409#msg4129409

--OR--

Spawn items at their feet, and hope they pick em up? (I assume someone has tried this though)

[Dirst]

You'll see that the comments in that code give a lot of credit to others.  The parts that look like duct tape would be my contributions

[taldarus]

I know, its a group effort, but you are where I found it

[Meph]

Organic weapon/armor bodyparts work, but are super clumsy. And for invaders I wouldnt need them to be civ-members of any type, just random hostile units. I can give them basic AI just with BUILDING_DESTROYER or with tags that make them path into your fortress.

All I want is to say "spawn 15 bandits at map edge", makes 15 humans with iron/leather gear. Or "spawn elite orc warband" with specific orc gear and materials. And even better, using creatures that dont have a civ, for example "You angered the forest. Face the wrath of Gaia", spawn 50 treants/Ents on the map edge, ready to tear down your Isengard.

Non-procedually generated invaders, so to speak.

[expwnent]

Equipment is the easy part. We already have good tools for making items, and it's simple enough to equip them on creatures, even in silly ways if you want them to wear their pants on their head or something. The "proper" way to do it would be to have them be separate functionality: one tool for creating units, and one for equipping them. That way if you want to do a magical girl transformation or whatever you can reuse the equipment script to replace what they're wearing.

Hmm...I wonder if wearing armor on your brain would give it extra protection.

[Meph]

And the locations can be made "random map edge tile" or something like that? Or "random cavern 1,2,3 map edge tile"

[expwnent]

I can write a make-invasion script or something that does that. You'd have to specify which unit equips which item at which body part, which would be tedious copy-paste work, but it shouldn't be too bad.