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[CaptainMcClellan]

Please friend. I want in on the !!MADNESS!!

[kefkakrazy]

yes, in headshoots (from what i understand) their god-like avatar of destruction was able to weild a handbag and decimate sieges alone...clad in a artifact adamantine breastplate thats so covered in blood and gore its permamently stained the colors...not to mention SHE was increbile insane and powerful.

Now that I have a bit more time to get wordy.

First off, I'm pretty sure it was a backpack. Could be wrong, but I believe.

Second, it used the old skill+stat progression system. Gaining any kind of skills improved a dwarf's strength, toughness, and agility, so dwarves with extremely high skills also had godlike stats to go with them. HolisticDetective didn't have god-tier weapon skills since she spent most of her time wielding her backpack (another old bug that I believe went away with the new military systems), but the other superchampion at least was a blademaster several dozen times over and had VG-tier physical stats as a result.

Third, the wounding system was much, much more abstract back then. Stories like someone throwing a fluffy wambler and critting a bronze colossus's head off happened because critical hits did silly stuff back then. A single bolt could hit you and obliterate every organ in your body. But if something didn't crit and actually damage you it basically didn't do anything if you had armor. Between the new stat system no longer giving high-skill dwarves Wolverine-level endurance and the new wounding system making hits more dangerous, the chances of any dwarf doing the kind of stuff that the Headshoots champions did much, much lower. (The VG, in either incarnation, would probably be turned into cat chow in a straight fight with HolisticDetective.)

Fourth, damage systems were rewritten as well. Toady coded a system that takes into account concepts like the weapon's hardness, how well it makes a blade, and its density; this is why a silver shortsword is worthless and a silver warhammer will cave in a dragon's skull, because silver makes a horrible edge but is really ninjaflippin' heavy, and candy makes a terrific blade (because it's super sharp) but a horrible mace (because it's about as heavy as styrofoam). In theory, improvised weapons like HD's backpack would be fairly weak under the new system.

Times change, I suppose. One could mourn the loss of Headshoots-style demigod champions or Boatmurdered-style elephant hordes and world-destroying magma cannons.

(On the other hand, times do change for the better, too, because you couldn't build minecart railguns in Headshoots, either.)

So, my suggestion for a mega project: Would a "train moat" work? Set up a track enabling us to send minecarts onto a circular track that goes around the Murdermachines walls and rig booster track to it in places, using either a BATTEREY device or a windmill farm to power it. Add minecarts to it so that they can circle it eternally, perhaps loaded with stones or giant buzzsaw blades. Hmm.

[AnimaRytak]

For the record, VGs physical stats are over 7500. 
Once his armor is finished, he'll be nigh unbreakable.

[kefkakrazy]

For the record, VGs physical stats are over 7500. 
Once his armor is finished, he'll be nigh unbreakable.

Sub-9000? What are we going to do when the Saiyans arrive?

[Dwarf4Explosives]

Wait...why in the Hellbunker did you make him sub-perfect (9000 is the max, I believe)? Did you at least melt his fat off of his body?

Oh, and yes, kefka, it can work. I suggested a small version for a fort's entrance, but it was shot down for being overpowered .

[ChaosMaker]

Wait...why in the Hellbunker did you make him sub-perfect (9000 is the max, I believe)? Did you at least melt his fat off of his body?

Oh, and yes, kefka, it can work. I suggested a small version for a fort's entrance, but it was shot down for being overpowered .

for one i think for lolz, also how do you do that? modding the files?

and two, i suggest we make several for murdermachines entrences...and then watch as the elves get MURDERED in the front gates.

also i suggest we send VG into a recuperation period while he trains up our millitary...*and only comes out in the event of a seige or voidspawn!*

also load em up with steel saw blades, can coins do damage in this if their launched from the minecarts?

because im imagining minecarts going around rapidly using windmill-power and a mini battery to power them, and the minecarts loaded with steel coins, when they ram into somthing the coins will either weigh the cart down enough to cause it to squish somthing, or be sent pelting their faces over 1000+ times, out of those thousand some might do yellow injuries, out of those few some might do orange or even grey...and out of the very few some red injuries to boot!

finally i still go with the suggestion to breed dragon megabeasts to help invade hell!

[AnimaRytak]

He's already capable of pulverizing goblin flesh brains into Chunky Goblin Salsa.  If I made him any stronger, he'd make the ocean's red with blood.

[ChaosMaker]

He's already capable of pulverizing goblin flesh brains into Chunky Goblin Salsa.  If I made him any stronger, he'd make the ocean's red with blood.

so?

more dwarvness for us! dwarvenbonus if he doesnt care anymore and becomes a blood-knight! extra bonus if he can one-shot a steel collassos with his bare fists while hes in adamantine armour (full-plate, as well as light armour underneath!).

whats his skills/stuff like though? his stats? (strength, endurance, agility, recuperation, ect. ect.)

also will he be leading the Murder-sqaud of super dwarves dedicated to fighting the circus? (and the spawn)

also an idea...anyone think the hollisticspawn would be a good idea to incorperate into our story ind eathgate 3? we can have them rivals with the voidspawn and see them tear each other limb from limb...also the fact in spearbreakers the spawns bite was infectous...so we could end up with experimental subjects to drop into hell for the sheer !FUN! of it.

also adamantine threads...good idea for medical ward or no?

[Mr. Strange]

If I made him any stronger, he'd make the ocean's red with blood.

I fail to see how this is a bad thing. On completely unrelated note, is it possible to fill a moat with blood?

[Dwarf4Explosives]

You need a lot of it to keep all of it from caking onto the sides of the moat, and you need to add water before adding the extra blood (i.e. the stuff that you want floating around). I may be wrong, this is just based off my own experience with fluid physics and contaminants, plus what I've heard around the forums.

[SanDiego]

For the record, VGs physical stats are over 7500. 
Once his armor is finished, he'll be nigh unbreakable.

I was pretty sure he was invulnerable the last time around and look how that ended

[TheSaberTooth]

For the record, VGs physical stats are over 7500. 
Once his armor is finished, he'll be nigh unbreakable.

I was pretty sure he was invulnerable the last time around and look how that ended

There's always a chance a voidspawn or something will get a lucky hit on the VG, possibly ending him and the fortress. So I would prepare in the event that the VG dies due to extreme bad luck.

[AnimaRytak]

For the record, VGs physical stats are over 7500. 
Once his armor is finished, he'll be nigh unbreakable.

I was pretty sure he was invulnerable the last time around and look how that ended

Technically speaking, he isn't actually dead.  Gone, yes.  But his corpse doesn't exist.

[Shaggard]

Just gotta give the god a proper skin graft of blue gold. Three shirts of adamantine mail, buckle some plate over that. Some nice hoods looted from the corpses of our flesh carpets, a candy helm, greaves, high boots, and gauntlets. A heavy shield would work best for head caving, but beating a voidspawn to pulp with featherwood would be a plus.

[CaptainMcClellan]

Oh, yea. I think my post got buried, what do I do to be an Overseer? Or are there even any spots for that?