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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!  (Read 1864259 times)

Aseaheru

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15825 on: February 14, 2015, 08:22:22 pm »

A town? No. A base? Yes.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15826 on: February 14, 2015, 08:26:50 pm »

A town? No. A base? Yes.

it's a lot like a town. The place with brokers and guards and stuff right?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15827 on: February 14, 2015, 08:29:11 pm »

I'm perfectly fine with unfletched arrows being terrible and needing to get the recipes to make arrows that are any good. I'm just not sure it's a good idea for archery to be walled behind finding a book with the arrow recipes in it.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15828 on: February 14, 2015, 08:47:30 pm »

It's not. You just need enough skill.

Just spend your free time shooting sticks at a wall, then making new sticks to shoot against the wall.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15829 on: February 14, 2015, 08:51:23 pm »

It's not. You just need enough skill.

Just spend your free time shooting sticks at a wall, then making new sticks to shoot against the wall.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15830 on: February 14, 2015, 09:27:09 pm »

You can empty out cardboard boxes. Which is actually advantageous to do anyway--the cardboard boxes take up more space than the cookies/poptarts/cereal they contain, likely a reference to real-life manufacturers making massively oversized boxes for their contents in order to make it look like you're buying more.
Smart. It was these kind of details that got me playing.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15831 on: February 15, 2015, 02:21:23 am »

why the extra step? Just make the entire crafting process into one big step and get rid of the 'unfletched' variants.
Because then we'd have massive walls of boilerplate in the arrow recipes, and they'd invariably have all kinds of copy/paste errors in them.
Every recipe would need a list of everything you can make a shaft out of, everything you can make a fletching out of, everything you can make a head out of, etc.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15832 on: February 15, 2015, 04:41:40 am »

Plus, it's more crafting for delicious skill building :D

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15833 on: February 15, 2015, 05:26:12 am »

You can empty out cardboard boxes. Which is actually advantageous to do anyway--the cardboard boxes take up more space than the cookies/poptarts/cereal they contain, likely a reference to real-life manufacturers making massively oversized boxes for their contents in order to make it look like you're buying more.
Smart. It was these kind of details that got me playing.

Oversized packaging serves another purpose though: you only really see it with easily crushable foods: cookies or chips. Stuff like candy which isn't crushable almost always comes in more compact containers which don't have a lot of air in them. This difference makes it more likely that it's about cushioning products so that you're not buying a bag of dust. If it was a general "make it look bigger" thing then you'd see bags of candy puffed up like balloons too, but no company does this. I think people are more aware of the weight they are paying for than people say.

I can buy a big bag of choc chip cookies cheaper than ones that come with a plastic tray separating them, but the bag ones definitely have a whole strata of crushed cookies and dust in the bottom. With the tray ones you're guaranteed to be able to eat actual cookies and not be shoveling crumbs into your mouth. This is the reason people buy the tray ones, and not because the package looks bigger. So, if Cataclysm:DDA wants to model that really realistically, then fragile foods removed from their packaging shoud deteriorate into crumbs.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 05:35:17 am by Reelya »
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15834 on: February 15, 2015, 06:13:34 am »

I dont think that any form of realism was thought of, and rather that the size was more-or-less randomly chosen.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15835 on: February 15, 2015, 09:38:00 am »

there's mods to remove religious books, survivor armor, ect. Why is there no mansion removal mod? you walk in, find a katana, never die. woo. so fun.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15836 on: February 15, 2015, 09:39:53 am »

"Whoa, a katana. I'd probably hurt myself trying to swing that." /walk away
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« Reply #15837 on: February 15, 2015, 09:43:46 am »

"Whoa, a katana. I'd probably hurt myself trying to swing that." /walk away

yeah, yeah, knew i'd get replies like this.
but it's just sitting in the cabinet
beckoning
what man has such willpower to resist
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15838 on: February 15, 2015, 09:49:24 am »

"Whoa, a katana. I'd probably hurt myself trying to swing that." /walk away

yeah, yeah, knew i'd get replies like this.
but it's just sitting in the cabinet
beckoning
what man has such willpower to resist

When you see a mansion, look towards your inner pyromaniac Marxist and stick it to the bourgeoisie by chucking a Molotov in the front door.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #15839 on: February 15, 2015, 09:52:55 am »

"Whoa, a katana. I'd probably hurt myself trying to swing that." /walk away

yeah, yeah, knew i'd get replies like this.
but it's just sitting in the cabinet
beckoning
what man has such willpower to resist

When you see a mansion, look towards your inner pyromaniac Marxist and stick it to the bourgeoisie by chucking a Molotov in the front door.

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