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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!  (Read 1882437 times)

i2amroy

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13170 on: August 24, 2014, 01:14:48 am »

Are you starting in a season other than Spring?
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« Reply #13171 on: August 24, 2014, 01:23:49 am »

I actually have the problem too.  I started in spring, though it started happening in summer.  The bug has been around for so long I'm starting to think we just gotta live with it.  Either nobody wants to fix it or it's cause is so obscure and convoluted that nobody can.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13172 on: August 24, 2014, 01:24:23 am »

How do I get cooking skill to level 1 if I don't have frying pan/pot etc?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13173 on: August 24, 2014, 01:25:34 am »

I think you can make meat skewers by applying a knife to wood.  Should be able to cook meat with those.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13174 on: August 24, 2014, 01:29:08 am »

Ah nice, thank you Greiger.  One more question.  I keep getting messages of "Suddenly you're covered in ectoplasm", the wiki has no info on this.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13175 on: August 24, 2014, 01:39:28 am »

Are you starting in a season other than Spring?

It started happening in summer, after I had to strip naked for the 107 degree weather (lol. That barely happens farther south, let alone with the coast mitigating temperature. But anomalies... I guess), so I guess that's a thing. I would be less frustrated if it didn't seem to purely make cooking a food spoilage process with no indication of rot on the same uncooked food.

Ah nice, thank you Greiger.  One more question.  I keep getting messages of "Suddenly you're covered in ectoplasm", the wiki has no info on this.

Are you hallucinating? Messed with Shiny Fun Stuff lately? Does it actually affect your stats in any way? Stabbed any strange blobby monsters lately?
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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« Reply #13176 on: August 24, 2014, 01:42:00 am »

Ah nice, thank you Greiger.  One more question.  I keep getting messages of "Suddenly you're covered in ectoplasm", the wiki has no info on this.
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I actually have the problem too.  I started in spring, though it started happening in summer.  The bug has been around for so long I'm starting to think we just gotta live with it.  Either nobody wants to fix it or it's cause is so obscure and convoluted that nobody can.
It's more that there's enough bugs and other personal projects/improvements that everyone is always doing something. If a bug never catches the eye of a dev, and it's a fairly harmless bug such as that one, it can go for a long time without being fixed. That said I've added it to my list at least, so it should get fixed eventually once I get through the stuff in front of it.

It started happening in summer, after I had to strip naked for the 107 degree weather (lol. That barely happens farther south, let alone with the coast mitigating temperature. But anomalies... I guess), so I guess that's a thing. I would be less frustrated if it didn't seem to purely make cooking a food spoilage process with no indication of rot on the same uncooked food.
Yeah the high/low temperatures seem to be revealing some weird interactions with the rot functions. It's on my list now, though somebody else might get to it first.

As for the temperatures themselves, the problem seems to be mainly caused by use of the record high/low temperatures as the defining numbers for the scale rather then the averages. Now that we've got an idea of what the problem is, it hopefully shouldn't be too much longer to iron out the problems and get it fixed. :)
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13177 on: August 24, 2014, 01:42:23 am »

Ah nice, thank you Greiger.  One more question.  I keep getting messages of "Suddenly you're covered in ectoplasm", the wiki has no info on this.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13178 on: August 24, 2014, 02:01:06 am »

Ah yeah, I had a weird floating eye monster that did glare attacks on me.  Thanks again for the quick answers.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13179 on: August 24, 2014, 05:30:32 am »

Ah nice, thank you Greiger.  One more question.  I keep getting messages of "Suddenly you're covered in ectoplasm", the wiki has no info on this.
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I actually have the problem too.  I started in spring, though it started happening in summer.  The bug has been around for so long I'm starting to think we just gotta live with it.  Either nobody wants to fix it or it's cause is so obscure and convoluted that nobody can.
It's more that there's enough bugs and other personal projects/improvements that everyone is always doing something. If a bug never catches the eye of a dev, and it's a fairly harmless bug such as that one, it can go for a long time without being fixed. That said I've added it to my list at least, so it should get fixed eventually once I get through the stuff in front of it.

It started happening in summer, after I had to strip naked for the 107 degree weather (lol. That barely happens farther south, let alone with the coast mitigating temperature. But anomalies... I guess), so I guess that's a thing. I would be less frustrated if it didn't seem to purely make cooking a food spoilage process with no indication of rot on the same uncooked food.
Yeah the high/low temperatures seem to be revealing some weird interactions with the rot functions. It's on my list now, though somebody else might get to it first.

As for the temperatures themselves, the problem seems to be mainly caused by use of the record high/low temperatures as the defining numbers for the scale rather then the averages. Now that we've got an idea of what the problem is, it hopefully shouldn't be too much longer to iron out the problems and get it fixed. :)

Just curious, is the rotting time decrease a linear function of temperature?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13180 on: August 24, 2014, 10:40:51 am »

Just spent a couple real-life hours fortifying, sorting, packing, and moving into a new base inside an apartment complex.

Immediate crash upon completion.

Lost everything, back in the colossal unsorted piles I had to start.

There's two hours gone forever. QQ and all.
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13181 on: August 24, 2014, 11:19:32 am »

And thats why you turn on autosave and backup your world folder whenever you get done doing something you don't want to redo.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13182 on: August 24, 2014, 12:06:49 pm »

What's a simple, quiet vehicle I can obtain early on in the game and where would I find one?  I was thinking maybe a bicycle?  Also do public works buildings make good bases?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13183 on: August 24, 2014, 12:19:43 pm »

What's a simple, quiet vehicle I can obtain early on in the game and where would I find one?  I was thinking maybe a bicycle?  Also do public works buildings make good bases?
Solar powered car that's missing a battery. Easy to fix, almost silent.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #13184 on: August 24, 2014, 01:51:44 pm »

Just curious, is the rotting time decrease a linear function of temperature?
Pretty sure it's something like that, yeah, which is why we've been having some problems with really cold temperatures making foods "unrot".
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