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[Farce]

Is there anything on the next stable?  The current experimentals still crash without logs on start for me, so I'm hoping maybe the next stable will fix whatever issue is doing that.  A slim hope, but...

[Zireael]

Is there anything on the next stable?  The current experimentals still crash without logs on start for me, so I'm hoping maybe the next stable will fix whatever issue is doing that.  A slim hope, but...

Supposedly 0.B should arrive in July.

[KA101]

Is there anything on the next stable?  The current experimentals still crash without logs on start for me, so I'm hoping maybe the next stable will fix whatever issue is doing that.  A slim hope, but...

We're shooting for 11 Jul but that's not very likely to happen.

(And no, I'm not sure why it insta-crashes.  Doesn't for me.  :-( )

[azmodean]

Is there anything on the next stable?  The current experimentals still crash without logs on start for me, so I'm hoping maybe the next stable will fix whatever issue is doing that.  A slim hope, but...

You don't seem to understand the process, a stable build is just an experimental build that's "blessed".  We'll try and sort it out before then for sure, but it won't suddenly start working because we call the build stable.
We seem to be getting a number of reports that Win7 doesn't like the program recently.

[Girlinhat]

This isn't a proper game.  A 'release' isn't like other games where they introduce a new feature, bugfix, then release it as a version.  A 'release' for Cataclysm is literally, "It's been a  few months, let's call THIS a release."

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   I see the releases as more of a set point for people making tilesets to go for. For stable to mean something more you either need a single developer or a more organized team. Without that the development is to all over the place for things to really settle down enough for a really stable build.

[Farce]

Yes, that's why I said a slim hope.  I sorta assumed with a 'stable release' there would be a buncha combing for bugs or issues that might end up finding whatever obscure problem is buggering my ability to play.

[Sheb]

Well, or just wait a week or so and grab the next experimental. Could have been fixed.

[azmodean]

This isn't a proper game.  A 'release' isn't like other games where they introduce a new feature, bugfix, then release it as a version.  A 'release' for Cataclysm is literally, "It's been a  few months, let's call THIS a release."

One feature at a time?  Who does that?
And how exactly does the release model have anything to do with it being a "proper" game?

[Sheb]

I guess he meant "proper" as in "following the standard development process by a game studio". We all love Cataclysm.

[teoleo]

when add a new feature?

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

This isn't a proper game.  A 'release' isn't like other games where they introduce a new feature, bugfix, then release it as a version.  A 'release' for Cataclysm is literally, "It's been a  few months, let's call THIS a release."

One feature at a time?  Who does that?
And how exactly does the release model have anything to do with it being a "proper" game?

   I would relate her use of proper more towards the organization of programmers. In CataDDA anyone can work on it and the additions are added in whenever approved. This is quite chaotic when compared to even other roguelikes. Generally either you have one person programming it in which case the development is one thing at a time or you have a team. When a project gets to the team phase a couple of possibilities happen. Either A, no one takes charge and everyone goes barreling off and the project falls apart as the code base splinters or B, A person or small group of people take hold of the development and guides it. Most currently well known big roguelikes that have survived the test of time follow either the single person or small group model. Examples are DCSS, Angband, and Nethack for the group as well as ADoM and Dwarf Fortress for the single person model. Of those I think looking at Angband will be the most enlightening as it not only had the central group but because of easy of modding many other projects splintered off. The proliferation of *bands is an example of a project that ends up without a strong lead and if not for the central Angband team we probably wouldn't have such a defined game.
   CataDDA is actually in an interesting position right now as it isn't a roguelike with a "strong" lead where someone is actively directing development. While there are people in charge who stop things from being included which are too dissimilar from what the general consensus on what CataDDA should be people are not really being assigned things to work on. If you want an example of a more directed roguelike then I advise looking at the DCSS dev blog. Anyway while I disagree with the word proper in the sense that it has a negative connotation, taken from this view it isn't entirely wrong.

[Sheb]

For some reasons, I keep thinking of Girlinhat as a boy. Sorry for the misused 'he' Girlinhat. :/

[Shakerag]

For some reasons, I keep thinking of Girlinhat as a boy. Sorry for the misused 'he' Girlinhat. :/

Girl-in-hat?  >_>

[Sheb]

Yeah, I know. It's really ridiculous, ain't it?