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[Mictlantecuhtli]

(while a melee character can use perception as a dump stat with almost no downside)

You hear a clicking noise. You look down.

BOOM

[BurnedToast]

(while a melee character can use perception as a dump stat with almost no downside)

You hear a clicking noise. You look down.

BOOM

I said almost no downside. Landmines are the only thing you really have to worry about.

You need 10 perception to see a buried landmine (iirc), so that's still not really a downside to using it as a dump stat since you can't see it anyway with a normal score.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Which is the reason it's not a dump stat. Atleast, not to prepared players.

[Zireael]

There's a trap detection rework in the works, which adds trapping and reduces the Per required.

[i2amroy]

For the guns thing I believe one of the things Kevin (azmodean) is working on is a more realistic "wait to aim" system, which should also include a bit of a gun rebalance. He just hasn't had much time to work on it lately.

[10ebbor10]

It is linked to the "It takes 2 minutes to cross a street" issue. Giving guns are realistic range without fixing that would means enemies would never have the time to close in on you.

Anyway, here's a semi-logical improbably way to explain both effects.

The portals have continuously emitted various gasses, which has ramped up atmospheric pressure. While perfectly survivable, the increased friction makes it much harder to walk, and slows down bullets.

Also, the streets are very, very wide.

[guessingo]

Does DDA really need official release? The experimentals are constantly updated. There is alot of new content since the last official release

[beorn080]

Does DDA really need official release? The experimentals are constantly updated. There is alot of new content since the last official release

I'd say yes. If only because it lets the devs know, ok, we've done these sets of things, lets stop, bugfix, release a stable, and keep adding. Instead of just constantly adding new things and not focusing on bugs quite as much.

[UristMcDwarf]

I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for NPCs to be finished.



5 years later...

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   It needs releases not so much because they necessarily do much for it but because there are people who only play stable. I can understand this, especially for those who want a persistent world.

[i2amroy]

I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for NPCs to be finished.

5 years later...

You could always learn to code yourself and help out.

[UristMcDwarf]

I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for NPCs to be finished.

5 years later...

You could always learn to code yourself and help out.

What language is this game in? IIRC, It's Python, right?

[Greiger]

Thinking about the earlier guns debate wouldn't it be possible to just make a mod that increases the range of guns? 

I just don't know if just increasing range is enough or if dispersion would need to be changed too, I know it has something to do with accuracy and it's the maximum degrees off target a gun can be when fired, but is that per tile of range that it can be off by or is that over the entire range of the gun?

If it's over the entire range then it probably doesn't need tweaked much at all, if it's per tile, increasing a guns range would just mean it can't hit anything at those ranges.(and may start pulling some of that fancy original x-com shooting at a 90 degree angle stuff)

[azmodean]

Does DDA really need official release? The experimentals are constantly updated. There is alot of new content since the last official release

I'd say yes. If only because it lets the devs know, ok, we've done these sets of things, lets stop, bugfix, release a stable, and keep adding. Instead of just constantly adding new things and not focusing on bugs quite as much.

That sums it up pretty well, also it gives us a synchronization point for translators, it's more or less impossible for the experimentals to be well translated.

I'm just twiddling my thumbs waiting for NPCs to be finished.

5 years later...

That's interesting, considering the project is only about a year and a half old :/
If you're talking about original Cataclysm, well that's no longer developed...

What language is this game in? IIRC, It's Python, right?

C++, with game data defined in json, and some Lua bits around the edges for modding.

Thinking about the earlier guns debate wouldn't it be possible to just make a mod that increases the range of guns? 

Yep, it would be about 6 lines of Lua.

I just don't know if just increasing range is enough or if dispersion would need to be changed too, I know it has something to do with accuracy and it's the maximum degrees off target a gun can be when fired, but is that per tile of range that it can be off by or is that over the entire range of the gun?

Dispersion is in quarter-degrees, so you'd have to scale that down too.

If it's over the entire range then it probably doesn't need tweaked much at all, if it's per tile, increasing a guns range would just mean it can't hit anything at those ranges.(and may start pulling some of that fancy original x-com shooting at a 90 degree angle stuff)

I've shot monsters BEHIND me with a M249 on full auto with low skill, so yea.

[Zireael]

That sums it up pretty well, also it gives us a synchronization point for translators, it's more or less impossible for the experimentals to be well translated.

Good point.