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[GlyphGryph]

That's a lot of bear wang you've been slapped with.

It's not just bears, it's literally everything except for human zombies, zombies are pretty much standard as far as quantity and OBF ('OH, BULLSHIT!' Factor) goes.

You should NOT be getting zombears with new characters - they shouldn't even start spawning until at least two weeks into the game, and the same for dogs. It's worth reporting as a bug - something may have gone wonky with the date logic or the spawn tables or both.

[scrdest]

That's a lot of bear wang you've been slapped with.

It's not just bears, it's literally everything except for human zombies, zombies are pretty much standard as far as quantity and OBF ('OH, BULLSHIT!' Factor) goes.

You should NOT be getting zombears with new characters - they shouldn't even start spawning until at least two weeks into the game, and the same for dogs. It's worth reporting as a bug - something may have gone wonky with the date logic or the spawn tables or both.

They most definitely did not appear first later than the second day. I've been seeing them right at the spawn.

[Grendus]

Is this with a newly generated world, or are you spawning in a world you've already been playing in? That's the only thing I can think of.

[n9103]

I've had Zombears straight out of the shelter on a new world.
Not the most pleasant thing to deal with. Luckily that was a Brutish character, and he managed to put it down with the pipe from a smashed locker and a broken window.

[scrdest]

Is this with a newly generated world, or are you spawning in a world you've already been playing in? That's the only thing I can think of.

Newly genned. I downloaded the newest Experimental literally 4 hours ago. After the initial fuckup, I deleted the world and made a new one. Same deal.

[Girlinhat]

Same, seen all types spawn immediately.  Thought this was intentional.  Static spawn.

[Tiruin]

Agreed.

Same, seen all types spawn immediately.  Thought this was intentional.  Static spawn.

The spawn density pertains only to those which are affected by the dynamic/static spawn option, right? Wildlife//swamp creatures are currently 'infinite' and don't seem to follow the spawn density...or did I miss a note there? O_o

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Probably unrelated, but I'm unsure where to put this: I've done some testing with unarmed combat and mutations alongside it (ie lycanthrope-ish character) and...
The 'Fangs' mutation develops 'Piercing weapons' skill while every other develops its respective unarmed combat skill (claws affects unarmed combat), and if you have the Fangs mutation, it is seemingly used alongside every unarmed attack with a set amount of skill invested into it (P. Weapon: 3, Unarmed: 5 for me, and my character biting everything I attack is...strange. I'm sinking my fangs into all them zombies that it deals a lot of damage combined).

[Grendus]

Random question: is there a way to re-fold an unfolded folding bicycle short of disassembling it and rebuild it?

Edit: strike that, turning it into a bike turns the foot crank into foot pedals.

[i2amroy]

Use the vehicle interact key (^ by default IIRC) while standing next to the bike and fold it up that way.

[woose1]

With several mutations and bionics at 16 strength and 15 dex, my newest character has become a close combat BEAST. I two-shot zombie hulks and I usually one-shot

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Dark Wyrms.

The firebrand is fucking awesome btw. Hordes of regular and even special zombies have become little more than minor nuisances. I laugh at the murderous wildlife and eat zombears for breakfast. Currently trying to find either intelligence boosting mutations and bionics or find a

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mind shielding artifact

so I can take on the

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amigara horrors.

In fact, the only reason I move my RV nowadays is to get away from the literal MOUNTAINS of dog and cougar corpses that tend to pile up. The spawning mechanisms still seem to be a bit wonky.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

In the absense of humans, wildlife will repopulate VERY quickly and become predominant.  However, since orange juice is still good when you start the game, it's assumed this is about 8 hours after the fall of mankind, so not sure how fast bears breed, but...

IIRC it's more like 1-3 weeks. You're coming out of the shelter after the military has declared the Northeast lost & pulled out. The worst bits of the cataclysm are over, (for now), and as far as rationalizing orange juice: perhaps power didn't go out immediately.

Yar, I've noticed a lot of zombears, but I didn't really mind as we have cheese to deal with it, and it strokes nostalgia for bathroom moose & the carp phenomenon. Provides a nice 'uh oh' for newish characters- have to pull out the backup weapons. Saw one slog through FIVE BEARTRAPS once.

Also: pah, whoever doesn't start with black road&static NPC is a sissy.

[Gamerlord]

Fucking HATE Black Road.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

But it's FUN! The static NPC is the key- they stand & fight, you vamoose & come back for their stuff (if you can escape/deal with the ones that chase you). Great narrative too, (though I've heard the newest versions might have starting scenarios???).

[scrdest]

In the absense of humans, wildlife will repopulate VERY quickly and become predominant.  However, since orange juice is still good when you start the game, it's assumed this is about 8 hours after the fall of mankind, so not sure how fast bears breed, but...

IIRC it's more like 1-3 weeks. You're coming out of the shelter after the military has declared the Northeast lost & pulled out. The worst bits of the cataclysm are over, (for now), and as far as rationalizing orange juice: perhaps power didn't go out immediately.

Yar, I've noticed a lot of zombears, but I didn't really mind as we have cheese to deal with it, and it strokes nostalgia for bathroom moose & the carp phenomenon. Provides a nice 'uh oh' for newish characters- have to pull out the backup weapons. Saw one slog through FIVE BEARTRAPS once.

Also: pah, whoever doesn't start with black road&static NPC is a sissy.

I've lived through bathroom moose. Bathroom moose wasn't as bullshit as zombears galore. And even if they weren't less annoying, there's a reason why those were removed - namely because the game being a dick is not fun, it's just the game being a dick. Juggling chainsaws is a challenge, juggling chainsaws while someone decides to randomly shoot you is frustrating.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Oh, juggling chainsaws gets boring though. Without people trying to shoot you, where's the fun?