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[Darkmere]

I'm torn about the idea of megacities. On one hand, fortifying an area Urban Dead-style and setting up a barricaded survivor complex with small garden plots sounds pretty sweet.

On the other hand, once you have that initial clear completed, you'll probably have everything you're likely to need and the rest of the city will just be more of the same. The streets will be clogged, so driving larger vehicles will be annoying. Meat will be a problem, unless you make excursions out of the city to hunt every day or two.

The clogged streets might be less of an issue if we could cut up those useless frames and use them to barricade unused windows/doors (would need a welder, and be stronger than the wood patching we have now). I think once multi-level buildings are in, the ability to install permanent (one time, repairable but non-removable) solar arrays on the rooftops to power floodlighting around the compound would be fun. Also, gas-powered generators. Eh?

[Knight of Fools]

Yeah, the only way I see myself enjoying a megacity to its fullest extent is with the ability to walk around on roofs and simultaneous Z-Level processing. I'd love to find a basement, fortify the house around it, and not have to deal with zombies teleporting into the basement.

[Sharp]

Well in original Cataclysm there was a chance of large cities, and chances for large cities to spawn near large cities to create huge cities, and then these huge cities to form mega cities!

I dunno why the mapgen code was changed so that doesn't occur anymore but it makes me sad.

[Blaze]

We have that, it's called the Lightning Storm 

It's not so much of an issue now that we have vehicles.

In fact, I don't really find a reason to ever make any buildings anymore. Vehicles are just so much simpler and have so much more utility.

[10ebbor10]

Well in original Cataclysm there was a chance of large cities, and chances for large cities to spawn near large cities to create huge cities, and then these huge cities to form mega cities!

I dunno why the mapgen code was changed so that doesn't occur anymore but it makes me sad.

I think they added more options for the generator, so the chance of many cities clumping together decreased.

[Farce]

Taking from L4D, I would imagine climber/leaper zombies that could zombie-parkour over moats and walls and stuff would at least threaten a player in their safehouses.  Perhaps Chargers as well, who could do more damage to structures?  Maybe it wouldn't be as dangerous to the player as it was in L4D - no grab, and it could just trample and/or knock back a player instead of carrying them through the charge, or something.

I would also imagine the later stages would be made more difficult with NPCs - either bandits, or trying to keep the ones you've gathered to you stocked on ammo, food, medicine, and whatever other stuff?

[Girlinhat]

Hulks are like Tanks, and Brutes are like Chargers.  Hulks are just very rare, though one of the few forces that can smash through house walls.

We used to have Fast zombies, dunno what happened to them...

[Imp]

Fast zombies became zombie dogs, maybe?

[Aseaheru]

Or perhaps children...

[Imp]

Or perhaps children...

Kids are quick, but they also affect morale, which dogs and fasts don't.  So I see kids as just 'new'.

[Blaze]

I remember a dev saying Fast zombies indeed became zombie dogs.

Zombie children are unrelated.

[GalenEvil]

Initial progress with the World Factory:

[i2amroy]

I remember a dev saying Fast zombies indeed became zombie dogs.

This is indeed true, and IIRC there is still a bug where master zombies can "upgrade" normal ones into zombie dogs.

[Farce]

I know there are fast zombies - well, zombie dogs now - Hulks and Brutes, but they're not really the same as what I mean.  A fast zombie dog isn't gonna climb, and while a Hulk can easily punch through whatever fortifications you have, it might be good to have a less rare and less powerful zambie that can also really threaten your buildings.

Or something.  :x

[Imp]

I downloaded the experimental curses build two days ago, and again today, definitely different versions (4 new professions in today's, yay!)

But I'm running into a weird bug with both these versions.  Experimental, I know, but figured should be reported.

Some of the zombies 'don't exist', as far as my character and my commands go.  If I throw a rock at them, it doesn't miss, it just hits the ground as it I threw it at an empty square.  If I attempt to attack them, I enter the square they occupy.  If I use x to examine the square that I see them standing on, I see the square and any objects it contains, except for the zombie.  If I could not see them, and see them moving like any other zombie of their type, I wouldn't even know they are there.

But they are not an illusion - they can hit me just fine.

Saving and reloading allows a work around for this, otherwise I have no idea what causes it to happen or any other player side fix for it.  It seems pretty common, about 1 in 8-12 zombies I've tried to fight has been affected, and I've seen the bug 8 times now, across 4 short games from the two days ago experimental curses, and three short games from today's download.  But at least I found that fix, so my current game just might last longer