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[ComputerWarrior]

Jackhammers, Sonic Resonators, Explosives and vehicles.

Just wondering, is it possible to add pick-axes to the game? Since it is, afterall, a tool that can be used in RL to break concrete walls. (I think.)

[The Darkling Wolf]

I'll be adding them as soon as I can figure out a nice way to make them work.

[Neonivek]

What kind of Pick-axes? I actually can't think of the last time I seen one. There arn't even mines in this game.

[The Darkling Wolf]

I have three in my garage at home

And there are mines, several varieties of them.

[Ygdrad]

Since smashing isn't an option, one way to make pickaxes work could be to make them act like a ranged weapon, with a range of 1 and a 1-tile explosive-like effect that damages them a bit(if walls can be destroyed gradually). There's always the option to make it work like other construction options, there are already dismantling options in there.

For a more thorough, long-term implementation, maybe something in the vein of how books work. Have walls keep track of how much they've been chipped at and make strength work as a multiplier, tying it to the endurance system once it's in would make sense too.

[G-Flex]

The one about sewage plants. I'm not gonna go adding a shitload of if statements to mapgen to determine what buildings are placed

There are a hell of a lot better ways to implement that than "a shitload of if statements", you know.

[Ygdrad]

Usually, running water for towns and cities requires power to operate. Issue is if something happened which caused the death of most people and nobody was left to man the power station, even ignoring dead man switches, pretty much the entire place would be out of power within anywhere from a few hours to a couple of days. The network needs to be monitored to fix areas where there is extra stress. If nothing is done something will blow somewhere and then the stress on the rest of the network increases and you get a cascading power failure and everything ends up powerless. Even with people manning the power plants, cascading power failures happen sometimes. With nobody to keep an eye on stuff you'd be out of power all over as soon as anything disrupted the network like say... houses and power lines having been turned into craters all over.

Getting the sewage/water treatment plants working would be really hard, and even if you managed to generate the amount of power required to bring one back online, all that power, and potentially the fuel used to generate it, would be better used on something else since you've only really got one person to worry about and a hotplate or a fire can already get you your water. Also, water treatment plants require a fair supply of chemicals to clean your water.

[Neonivek]

I will say that the Sewage treatment plan would likely have concentrated Mutant ooze.

Though I will say that boiling likely won't get the mutant ooze out of water. You actually need to do something a bit extra. Ignoring that the game doesn't have mutant ooze.

Anyhow Ygdrad you are forgetting one important detail: No one has sinks, baths, or running water of any type. The Sewage plants are obviously not made to send water to all the houses (and oddly enough... given that the only place that quasi-links to sewage plants... is not a civilian building. It is quasi-canon)

[Ygdrad]

The houses do have toilets(that's where i tend to refill my bottles with water to clean later ><) the tubs and sinks are probably just an omission or whales felt they wouldn't add much/wanted us to suffer and drink from the bowl. The houses are definitely linked to the treatment plant, it's just not a connection you can walk through, you can't really climb up the pipes and into someone's crapper.

Anyways, sewage treatment plants don't distribute water to the houses, they take your waste water and treat it to make it environmentally safe to dispose of.

[The Darkling Wolf]

The one about sewage plants. I'm not gonna go adding a shitload of if statements to mapgen to determine what buildings are placed

There are a hell of a lot better ways to implement that than "a shitload of if statements", you know.

I'm aware, I just wasn't interested in writing an essay as to why I didn't think it was an excellent idea.

[Knight of Fools]

Yeah, regardless of how easy it is or not, it's a lot of work for very little impact to the game.

As for sewage treatment plants, I was under the impression that the game started three days after the initial infection, when everything went to pot and...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The blob had completely spread itself through the human population through the water system, which is why it became toxic and and nasty in such a short amount of time.

So, to me, it makes sense the way it is, though I'm pretty sure most American water facilities have backup generators, unless there are water towers in the area to keep water pressure up in case of an emergency.

[SalmonGod]

Encountered that issue with Hard Arm Guards + Trenchcoat again. 

Here's the save file.  A proper one this time.

[The Darkling Wolf]

Must be some weirdness with how the game layers encumbrance on the arms, I'll look into it.

[Ygdrad]

Do gas stations eventually run out of gas or can I keep siphoning them for vehicles and molotovs?

[GlyphGryph]

Not at the moment, though that is going to change in the very near future if granade has his way.