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[miauw62]

Tailoring + archery + drugs + vehicle = win cataclysm?

[SalmonGod]

Yeah, you can get pretty well decked out with good encumbrance management.  I've managed to get myself carrying somewhere around 200 volume without being encumbered.

[Tomcost]

I have a suggestion: seeing that you can create batteries with concentrated acid, why not creating a mod for electric devices which lets you use concentrated acid as fuel for them? The mod can be called "acid tank" or something like that and could be pretty ineficcient, but would use a renewable resource.

[Tiruin]

Spoiler: So about that whole reinforcing thing... (click to show/hide)

And the best part is that I have pretty much 0 encumbrance on all of my body parts that matter. I never imagined that tailoring was this OP.

Wait how did you reinforce the bag?

Military rucksacks aren't made o-

...

*facepalm* Riiight. Didn't see that one part.

Raincoats, kevlar and rucksacks aren't made of thread = can't be reinforced or fitted, sadly.

[SalmonGod]

I haven't touched raincoats since I discovered wool ponchos can be fitted to -1 encumbrance.

[Tiruin]

I haven't touched raincoats since I discovered wool ponchos can be fitted to -1 encumbrance.

Thank you for this enlightenment.

Apparently the current version is bugged, if the vehicle's starting tile is covered, then it counts all solar panels are covered, so roofs can get confusing.

It charges fine in sunny weather. I got it up to 17% charge on the last day of summer.

Cursed solar panels. I've you all installed after the roof on my single-lane speeder, and you won't charge despite me fitting pedals on you to move you out in the Clear day. D:<

...When you say starting tile = 'covered', you mean it was * (built) in a building, like for example, a Garage, right?

[Un67]

I haven't been using backpacks or military rucksacks because I can get tons of volume without the encumbrance, but both of those can be reinforced. Backpacks can be crafted out of rags at level 3 tailoring, and crafted backpacks can be reinforced with rags as any other fabric can. Military rucksacks are made out of plastic according to the wiki, so I could cut apart some plastic bottles and solder the pieces onto the rucksack with a soldering iron. Same thing with a raincoat.

[SalmonGod]

Rucksacks are pretty awesome.  Right now I'm wearing an under armor and two tank tops for -3 encumbrance.  Then a belt rig, trenchcoat, rucksack, and kevlar vest for a total of 2 encumbrance and 193 volume (with packmule).  I can put on my wool poncho to bring it to 1, but I'll start getting hot pretty quickly.  Eventually I'll get a vehicle or some kind of semi-permanent base so I won't need to carry all this stuff.  This character is only a couple days old. 

Also, holy crap... randomly attacked by a moose while reading a book.

[Girlinhat]

Rucksacks are pretty awesome.  Right now I'm wearing an under armor and two tank tops for -3 encumbrance.  Then a belt rig, trenchcoat, rucksack, and kevlar vest for a total of 2 encumbrance and 193 volume (with packmule).  I can put on my wool poncho to bring it to 1, but I'll start getting hot pretty quickly.

This seems like a bit of meta-gaming to me.  It doesn't make any sense and just exploits the -1 fitted quirk.

For rationality's sake, I'm only wearing fitted underarmor for -1, as it's an athletic support of sorts and the slight compression and tension can help your muscles.  Then I'm wearing a belt rig, army pants, and 2 holsters for 53 volume with Packmule.  A flask of purifier recently relieved me of my Bad Back so I might be adding some storage, likely a single leather pouch and maybe a utility vest.  Really though, I'm trying to keep my clothing light in general, as I'm preparing for winter and want my 'normal clothing' to add layers of fur without suffering much at all.  Also because this is still my 'debug mutate into a bird at the start' play and birds travel light!

[Un67]

^ But everybody knows that wearing spandex makes you move faster! And the more spandex you wear, the faster you move. How can you possibly argue with that logic?

As for the whole volume vs. encumbrance thing, I have 106 volume on my torso with zero encumbrance, without packmule. If I were to take off a belt rig, then it would be 88 volume with negative one encumbrance, which I am considering doing, though I could use the volume.

[Knight of Fools]

Weird, I'd thought the encumbrance abuse had been fixed recently.

Shame too, I'd been feel pretty sexy running around with nothing but under armor and a belt rig on my torso.

[SalmonGod]

Yeah, the encumbrance stuff does get incredibly unrealistic if you abuse it.

[Girlinhat]

Shame too, I'd been feel pretty sexy running around with nothing but under armor and a belt rig on my torso.

I've had to add a leather pouch and fur coat, but that's essentially exactly what I've been doing.

[SalmonGod]

I can't do it, at least not until I get a vehicle for some mobile storage.  I should abuse the Hoarder trait, because it wouldn't effect me at all.

[WealthyRadish]

I'm fairly sure the maximum zero torso/legs encumbrance volume (without packmule) is 162.

That's with two tank tops, two under armors, a military rucksack, messenger bag, trenchcoat, army pants, internal storage bionic, two holsters, and two fanny packs. You could technically raise it to 166, if the 4 volume is somehow worth wearing two trenchcoats, but the heat and arm encumbrance isn't worth it.

It's a pretty gamey system to have negative encumbrance, but it does make sense in context. Wearing a trenchcoat over bare skin would be uncomfortable, but wearing a fitted tank top would make it more comfortable without affecting movement. It gets weird when you're talking about a military rucksack and 4 undershirts, but I definitely prefer it to when melee characters had severely limited carrying volume.

Rather late edit: It looks like using jumpsuits you can push it up significantly higher. Leg encumbrance is much more strict though, so you'll be limited to 20 warmth and the mediocre protection jumpsuits afford compared to army pants. Your torso will likely be pretty hot, unless you drop the trenchcoat and use arm plates or something.