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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!  (Read 1861471 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12960 on: August 13, 2014, 11:17:24 pm »

Woop yeah NPCs are the worst with guns.

IIRC he's trying to reload with whiskey or a melee weapon or even a book.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12961 on: August 13, 2014, 11:24:59 pm »

PHEW! It stopped, I guess he died or something.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12962 on: August 13, 2014, 11:49:09 pm »

1 ELECTRONICS NPC: HMMM

I CANNOT READ THIS COLLEGE CIRCUIT DESIGN TEXTBOOK

IT IS SURELY OUT OF AMMUNITION

[You can't reload that! x99]
[You can't reload that! x99]
[You can't reload that! x99]
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12963 on: August 14, 2014, 12:33:21 am »

Well, he thought it needed new batteries. He didn't have enough skill to discern the difference between normal, battery-powered books and those awkward old-fashion paper things.

(Which raises the question: Why doesn't cataclysm have ebook readers? )
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12964 on: August 14, 2014, 12:43:39 am »

Saying this for posterity: NPCs are terrible and you should not play with them.
If you still decide to play with them however, debugging and killing them if they start bugging out is always an option.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12965 on: August 14, 2014, 12:49:53 am »

(Which raises the question: Why doesn't cataclysm have ebook readers? )
It does, bahahahahahahaha
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/8432
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12966 on: August 14, 2014, 01:21:34 am »

Yeah, looking through recipes.json the only things above 9 are solar panels 2 (10) and power storage 2 (12).

You could, in theory, sit in a safehouse for a couple seasons assembling, disassembling, and reassembling solar panel 2's for paltry skill gains until you hit 12, if solar panel 2 doesn't stop giving gains at 11. But you can't progress past 14 even if you wanted to destroy such a ridiculous amount of advanced UPS's and plutonium to make and unmake that many power storage 2's. So basically I should cheat past the absurd grinding required to bother getting high enough to make them, I guess.

OK, 9/10 respectively?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12967 on: August 14, 2014, 01:40:16 am »

Yeah, looking through recipes.json the only things above 9 are solar panels 2 (10) and power storage 2 (12).

You could, in theory, sit in a safehouse for a couple seasons assembling, disassembling, and reassembling solar panel 2's for paltry skill gains until you hit 12, if solar panel 2 doesn't stop giving gains at 11. But you can't progress past 14 even if you wanted to destroy such a ridiculous amount of advanced UPS's and plutonium to make and unmake that many power storage 2's. So basically I should cheat past the absurd grinding required to bother getting high enough to make them, I guess.

OK, 9/10 respectively?

Those seem quite a bit more reasonable, yeah. power mk2's are already expensive with the plutonium and/or adv UPS costs, so I think with the component rarity, that seems pretty fair.


*** unrelated comment I was about to post anyways ***

I retract my statement about guns being underpowered from a few pages back. The skill progression to make use of guns is... really, really weird, but they're very effective once you figure out the odd list of skills you need to make the most of them (or crazy amounts of luck to find exactly what you need to start using them early).
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12968 on: August 14, 2014, 04:25:46 am »

Saying this for posterity: NPCs are terrible and you should not play with them.
If you still decide to play with them however, debugging and killing them if they start bugging out is always an option.

Still terrible after acidia's fixes?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12969 on: August 14, 2014, 05:24:01 am »

Well, they're still buggy, even if they are less buggy.

It's like comparing a nuclear bomb that has 90% chance  to explode and a nuclear bomb with 30% chance to explode. The chances are a lot better, but you still wouldn't want to be near it.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12970 on: August 14, 2014, 09:43:28 am »

(Which raises the question: Why doesn't cataclysm have ebook readers? )
It does, bahahahahahahaha
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/8432
...I now want to create a photographer character so badly. ^_^
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12971 on: August 14, 2014, 09:48:17 am »

Good. god.

My farming crops finally yielded. I figured 8 plots per plant would be fair, for strawberries and blueberries, plus whatever I had leftover for space on the rest.

8 strawberry bushes -> about 50 strawberries.
one tomato plant yielded 4 or 5 tomatoes, so that's not bad.
1 barley yields 21 vodka wort. One plant yielded 16 barley. So the 4 plants I grew should be around 60 BOTTLES of vodka at 21 servings each. I could make a bottle a day every day for the next in-game year and barely catch up.

Best part: Just got a recycler unit CBM.... I only need to eat once a day now. Too much food...
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12972 on: August 14, 2014, 09:51:05 am »

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8 strawberry bushes

There is something... wrong about this statement... hmmmm
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12973 on: August 14, 2014, 09:57:25 am »

Fine. Strawberry plants. Grats.
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #12974 on: August 14, 2014, 09:58:20 am »

They are sorta bushlike...

And you dont have enough plants...
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