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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!  (Read 1880598 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11985 on: May 27, 2014, 11:42:27 pm »

Can we use items in a shopping cart for construction WITHOUT removing them beforehand? And if not, why not?

We can use them for crafting, I keep a shopping cart or wheelbarrow in my bases loaded with construction tools, nails, and 2x4s and never need to remove them to construct stuff.  Hell, I usually even keep my wrench, hacksaw, and welder in the trunk of my car.  Only have to take the welder out now and then for reload.  May not even need to do that if the car has a recharging station.

Can't use directly activated items unless they are in your inventory though.  Like if a craft or deconstruction needs a soldering iron you'll be considered to be in possession of one if it's in a nearby vehicle, but you will have to actually have it in your inventory to use it to repair something like a knife spear.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11986 on: May 28, 2014, 12:15:21 am »

There's no such thing as an effective bullet hose, especially in cases where the enemy has no fear.
Sustaining a RPM above 60 is all but guaranteeing that few shots actually hit their intended target at any significant distance.
Hence .22LR, meaning pretty negligible recoil, right?
If it stayed .22LR or weaker (Not even Magnum LR) then yes, I would say it would still be moderately effective, accuracy wise, but then, it's shooting .22 and isn't very effective to begin with.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11987 on: May 28, 2014, 12:22:11 am »

   It is one of those catch 22 situations. To be effective with damage you need something higher caliber but to be effective with aiming you need to have it there or lower. Though technically a high enough rate of fire would make any caliber effective but that is getting into the territory of sandblasting rather then shooting.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11988 on: May 28, 2014, 12:30:55 am »

There's never enuf dakka.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11989 on: May 28, 2014, 12:37:04 am »

There is never enough bullet.  Unless the entire target area has become a solid mass of bullet, but even then you could probably still apply more bullet with some kind of compression method.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11990 on: May 28, 2014, 12:48:20 am »

Isn't this where recoil sinks and gyro stabilizers come in? Can you jury rig something that would suffice? I'm personally imagining some sort of harness or cradle constructed with springs and rubber hose of course that would be getting close to the territory where you'd have to put it in a stationary position, which would solve a lot of the problem anyway.

With the advent of roaming hordes though stationary positioned guns might not be too terrible an idea...
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11991 on: May 28, 2014, 01:22:26 am »

Well, I did leave a disclaimer about stationary positions for a reason :p

As for futuristic tech that would be man portable, but still compensating for recoil, I try to speak from experience only.

That being said, after the first dozen or so rounds of much worse aim, the body can do some limited compensation of it's own for the recoil, resulting in likely better accuracy with rounds 20-50 (more and your shoulder would probably start to rebel, assuming any significant recoil to start) than with rounds 5-10.
This only applies to non-materiel rifles (7.62 and below I'd say off hand) with reasonable recoil. Same goes for auto shotties, but then, I've never handled a full-auto shotty. I do know that they fire far slower than any automatic rifle though. Would probably put the increase/decrease at 3-7(worse) & 10-25(better)

Rather out there semi-speculation, I know, but hey, could be an interesting side project for any of the coders in here.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11992 on: May 28, 2014, 05:12:33 am »

I suppose you could try including a gyroscopic system.

But that would have the drawback that you can't easily change your aim as long as the gyro's operational. It just keeps you pointing in the right direction.
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« Reply #11993 on: May 28, 2014, 09:43:44 am »

It sounds like we're setting up for chainguns or other machine guns that require multiple rounds to completely fire.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11994 on: May 29, 2014, 08:15:12 am »

It sounds like we're setting up for chainguns or other machine guns that require multiple rounds to completely fire.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11995 on: May 31, 2014, 12:47:13 pm »

I wonder if meeting this guy is a good or a bad omen.
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« Reply #11996 on: May 31, 2014, 01:04:15 pm »

Recruit them?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - A roaming horde appears on the horizon!
« Reply #11998 on: May 31, 2014, 01:09:41 pm »

   Your missing the important steps that come after. You recruit Urist then go find 5 others. With that you can finally strike the earth. Also in the fungus areas you should have a chance to find plump helmet spawn because I find that highly desirable.
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« Reply #11999 on: May 31, 2014, 01:45:17 pm »

Recruit them?
That would be prudent.
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