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[Inithis]

In addition to the undead, I'll be sending my two demons.

Also, even if we could capture the thing alive-unlikely-we can't let it drain souls.

[Vgray]

Make it hold up the sky!

Or make Jbyg hold up the sky.

Wait a minute...levitate Divalcatraz and make it hold up that!

[Rolepgeek]

Draco. The way to solve the worship problem is to get more followers. Even when you're asleep, your minions can still act. I give that big upkeep for a reason; it forces you all to either compete for worshipers, which I haven't been keeping track of the distribution of populations as I should, or to all work together and try and get very devoted followers. And no, the Synod would not count as a Pantheon. Yet. Think about what the four guys who made one did to become one. They helped each other in visible ways, in the game, not simply talking things over, agreeing, and the like. Though you might end up forming a Pantheon with Jebyg and some others, should you continue to quarrel; Ra and Set were enemies, but part of the same pantheon.

Oh, and a note for the Pantheon. It's a bad idea to let another member die. It will result in Fun.

[Rolepgeek]

And as clarification, here's how upkeep works.

You know how I record the population? Divide it by five. That's the amount of upkeep you have to pay to continue existing, if you're a god. Divide by ten for a devil. Fae don't give two shits.

[javierpwn]

So am I awake now, because technically I was sleeping?

[Vgray]

How did I help out Azaroth again? He helped out me in a big way I know that...

[racnor]

The thing that frustrates me is Difference in upkeep between devils and gods. Devils get worshippers just like gods do, but they also get more power from ratings and less loss from upkeep.

[Vgray]

Actually...I wonder how much of that is reverence/fear/hate and how much of that is us feeding off of emotions.

Or rather, whatever the hell it is we gain influence from. Wealth and Greed for me.

[javierpwn]

Devil worship is mostly symbolic, it goes us power, but we get power from what people actually do with their lives
Gods are powered only by worship.

GWG, make your followers have a day of fasting, where they spend all day praying to you!

Increase the worship by a bit.

[Vgray]

And Fae....use them as workers. And cannon fodder.

And destroy their souls.

[javierpwn]

I used to use them as dinner mostly.....
Then Inithis came and stole all my delicious souls!!!

[Vgray]

Incidentally, how many people live in Hospice?

[gman8181]

How did I help out Azaroth again? He helped out me in a big way I know that...

You granted all allied fae knowledge of where to find valuable minerals or something like that.

Also, I'm going to try and develop a new method of magic to teach to my followers.  It involves them draining energy from their surroundings or from other living creatures to gain magic and cast spells.  This should allow us to have more magic users running around and helping achieve our goals without anyone having to invest upkeep to give someone powers.  It also allows a mortal to cast magic while still worshiping a deity.

The magic would have two flavors: Pure Magic and Death Magic.  Pure Magic is gained from a mortal draining heat energy from their surroundings and is quicker and easier to use.  Death Magic is when the caster drains energy from something living to cast more powerful spells that they would not normally be able to cast with Pure Magic.  Death Magic would be less useful in combat and more useful for rituals because it would require living things to be brought in and sacrificed to fuel the spells.  Also we would try and use Death Magic less often due to the loss of life and use animals or plants instead of people for the sacrifices as much as possible.

Only a select few mortals will be taught this magic, and if they abuse it or use it in ways we find offensive, they will be executed.  These mages will be kept under very close watch and most likely be elite followers that go around taking care of business and carrying out the most difficult assignments.

Oh and Fae cannon fodder?

[GreatWyrmGold]

We probably can't change our supernatural type.

What part of "When Draco goes night-night" did you not catch?

On the subject of temples, what would everyone say to a temple for everyone In Avalon?

Sounds nice. I'd contribute, but..what the heck, I'll make the lights or something.

Draco. The way to solve the worship problem is to get more followers.

No, really? Wow! I suppose I'll have to be evangelizing and stuff...oh, wait, I have been. And I'll need to cut off my healing miracles if I want to avoid falling asleep this turn or next rather than in four turns, so there's that...

Even when you're asleep, your minions can still act.

Which gives me 10 that I can count of for certain once I stop doing anything.

I give that big upkeep for a reason; it forces you all to either compete for worshipers, which I haven't been keeping track of the distribution of populations as I should, or to all work together and try and get very devoted followers.

Gee, like I haven't been trying to do that already.

And no, the Synod would not count as a Pantheon. Yet. Think about what the four guys who made one did to become one. They helped each other in visible ways, in the game, not simply talking things over, agreeing, and the like. Though you might end up forming a Pantheon with Jebyg and some others, should you continue to quarrel; Ra and Set were enemies, but part of the same pantheon.

Joy. And irony.
What would the Synod need to do as a group to actually become a pantheon?

Oh, and a note for the Pantheon. It's a bad idea to let another member die. It will result in Fun.

Good to know.

GWG, make your followers have a day of fasting, where they spend all day praying to you!
Increase the worship by a bit.

Would that actually do anything? Aside from alienate some followers, I mean.

Anyways...

Spoiler: A Formal Protest to the New Upkeep (click to show/hide)

First off, "upkeep" implies that we're paying to keep something in good repair. We're not. We're paying because...I don't know.
Second off, it makes a huge power disparity between gods and the other Powers. Was the ability of gods to beat up devils in single combat that big? It certainly doesn't help that, as noted, devils have sources of income other than worship, while gods don't.
I'd also like to note that, pretty much every freaking turn, I have been converting followers as much as I could, with everything from the Eladrin slaying monsters in my name to healing miracles to the Orb of Faith. And despite this, my "upkeep" is crippling. With just that payment and a few things that really shouldn't be costing me more mana every turn, I am paying 75% more on upkeep than I am getting from worship. What do I have to do? Spend the last of my mana to forcibly convert everyone in the world to my religion? Conquer an empire, make mine the state religion? What, in short, has a reasonable chance of making me stop hemorrhaging mana?
And why the heck do gods need to pay so much mana to the mortals, with no way out of it?

Spoiler: The Synod (click to show/hide)

Laws:
1. Any being, whether a power, a servant to a power, a mortal, or whatever may be condemned by a 2/3 or greater vote of the organization; a condemned being may be absolved by a simple majority vote.
2. A condemned being which has not subsequently been absolved is subject to any punishments agreed on by a majority of the group.
3. Any rules may be changed by a two-thirds majority vote after a suggestion by a member power. The same process may be applied to alter rather than add laws.
4. No being may be prosecuted for punishing said being's own servants for infractions of the being's laws or orders.
5. If any two members of the Synod wish to go to war, and both agree to it, the Synod will not disapprove and may not act as a body to end the war or punish the members. Any collateral damage which harms nonparticipant parties may still be prosecuted.

Orders:
We will construct an "Alcatraz" to hold the most dangerous of criminals.

Members: (9)
GreatWyrmGold (Draco)
Gman (Jim)
Inithis (Inithis)
Javierpwn (Javier)
Kashyyk (Azaroth)
Rancor (Usael)
Scapheap (Cupitas)
Vgray (Azem)
Wwolin (Alrezar)

The Condemned:
Jebyg, Punished with dAIDS

Proposals:
None

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[Vgray]

How did I help out Azaroth again? He helped out me in a big way I know that...

You granted all allied fae knowledge of where to find valuable minerals or something like that.

Also, I'm going to try and develop a new method of magic to teach to my followers.  It involves them draining energy from their surroundings or from other living creatures to gain magic and cast spells.  This should allow us to have more magic users running around and helping achieve our goals without anyone having to invest upkeep to give someone powers.  It also allows a mortal to cast magic while still worshiping a deity.

The magic would have two flavors: Pure Magic and Death Magic.  Pure Magic is gained from a mortal draining heat energy from their surroundings and is quicker and easier to use.  Death Magic is when the caster drains energy from something living to cast more powerful spells that they would not normally be able to cast with Pure Magic.  Death Magic would be less useful in combat and more useful for rituals because it would require living things to be brought in and sacrificed to fuel the spells.  Also we would try and use Death Magic less often due to the loss of life and use animals or plants instead of people for the sacrifices as much as possible.

Only a select few mortals will be taught this magic, and if they abuse it or use it in ways we find offensive, they will be executed.  These mages will be kept under very close watch and most likely be elite followers that go around taking care of business and carrying out the most difficult assignments.

Oh and Fae cannon fodder?

Azaroth is a Devil.

Alrezar is the Fae with lots of similar letters.

Azaroth broke Jbygs siege and I...can't think of anything I did to help him.

I helped Alrezar a lot. And he built me a temple. Which was never even mentioned by the GM. I want details about that Dwarven Caravan later too.

You and me have a good working relationship.