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Gervassen

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Hardship: A Suggestion Game <-- peasant's POV
« Reply #3525 on: May 17, 2013, 01:56:40 am »

If the duke does grant us Arthurs land, Sir Lope will probably slit our throat while we are sleeping. Not that we even know that Arthur died.

I wouldn't say so. Uriel has no better claim than us, and the Duke does have final say, which Uriel would have to support. I like to think that we reached a level of mutual respect during our campaign, and he would support us. At worst, we retire him as our Marshal, though.

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As always, reading your cascade of quotes sends me soaring to the very heights of ecstasy, GWG. :D

1. Going to Curbiston is not sarcasm. It's a bold move that I wanted to sound out on others first. It is not a move to take lightly.

2. Our rise was not benevolent in some senses, particularly those senses relating to commoners. We used our people like oxen, particularly before we found the silver and gold mines to actually pay them. We were often calling on our peasants to provide much more than their fair share of unpaid feudal obligations. Even now, what we mine on an annual basis cannot possibly be coming close to the real costs of a stone wall and a large tower of the scale that we have pushed them to construct. I can price it out for you, if you really want. We are a hard-driving taskmaster of a lord, who presumes that buildings pop effortlessly into existence as we think of them, full-blown like Minerva from the brow of Jupiter. It further damns us that we don't even realize the toil and hardship involved in expanding a town at such break-neck pace, or realize that the true worth of the expansion has been far above the means that we've had at our disposal. Our firm unrelenting leadership, oblivious to the fatigue of all those beneath us, has forced the sloth out of our peasants like impurities from well-hammered steel, and this caused far more building and growth than anyone could have imagined just six years ago, when this place had a half-dozen ramshackle huts. That's the dirty little secret behind our amazing growth, but we'll make sure to leave it out of the official histories and use your version instead.

3. The plague is not close to being over. I'm amused at the statement, "the plague is pretty much dead," when every single neighbour is currently flying a black flag. Every single. In fact, the number and the severity seemed to increase last month. That means that we're one urgent message away from learning that someone collapsed with fever at a local wedding attended by a hundred other people. Hello, mass death! Goodbye, premature self-congratulation.

Also, two last things.
Gerv: Have you noticed that a couple of people have said that they'd stop paying attention to your posts? Have you considered that they might have reasons for this that you should address? Hint: They're not trolls. They're well-meaning people who don't see eye-to-eye with you. That's not the problem; I don't see eye-to-eye with lots of people, but I've never managed to alienate two people in the same suggestion game, let alone within the same topic of discussion. You may wish to reconsider both your style of suggestions and your attitude.

First, Gamerlord clearly had the problem. A guy addresses me with vile language because of a proposal in a game. If he wanted to change me, because in the midst of playing an anonymous forum game he peered deeply into my soul and judged it wanting, then I thank him for the concern, but must inform him that his subsequent choice of words and actions were the wrong approach entirely and have brought his own role as an umblemished judge of character into question. I refuse to bend an inch to accommodate people who respond to me in such a disrespectful manner.

Second, if I were to, in a stroke of un-Gervish thinking, suddenly somehow become cynical and calculating, I might be tempted to point out that when people who usually disagree with my methods decide to ignore my posts, it gives me an excellent opportunity to continue suggesting the things that I like, without having to bicker around as much as usual. When my suggestions mysteriously appear in the story, they can blame it on a little devil sitting on Sam Stone's shoulder. For my part, I find that it is better to ignored in hell, than to be overruled in heaven. Everyone who strongly disagrees with me on a regular basis should at least consider the possibility of ignoring me. That'll teach me! Teach me real good like.

If you look the thread over, you'll see that I have already changed my attitude to be more much more calm and patient. One thing that won't happen is that I change my style of suggestions. I don't want what those people want. You're wrong to even suggest that I or anyone else should conform to the petulance of others.

Finally, although I've responded, I don't desire or expect a reply to this part. There is no room to negotiate on this. They did nothing toward me worth changing my mind, and what you suggest as a solution is absolutely horrific, something that I myself would never suggest to them.


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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3526 on: May 17, 2013, 02:05:13 am »

Guys, Nip this in the bud now. We don't need a permanent lock on this subject.

FWIW though, I'm mostly in agreement with GWG on courses of action here Gerv
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3527 on: May 17, 2013, 02:15:02 am »

I leave before I change what I suggest. I don't slap the mouse out of your hand and tell you to play Starcraft with keyboard shortcuts or else, don't tell me how to play this.
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« Reply #3528 on: May 17, 2013, 02:16:27 am »

...I meant in terms of what sir stone is to do. Not the argument you guys are having
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3529 on: May 17, 2013, 02:34:03 am »

Oh. I'd need a short summary of that to understand what he said. I mean, I did read it fully, but the formatting issues...
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3530 on: May 17, 2013, 04:06:37 am »

Thanks a lot G, now I have to break my promise and respond to you. Why did you have to do this?

First, Gamerlord clearly had the problem. A guy addresses me with vile language because of a proposal in a game. If he wanted to change me, because in the midst of playing an anonymous forum game he peered deeply into my soul and judged it wanting, then I thank him for the concern, but must inform him that his subsequent choice of words and actions were the wrong approach entirely and have brought his own role as an umblemished judge of character into question. I refuse to bend an inch to accommodate people who respond to me in such a disrespectful manner.

What words? What actions?

O_O

What. The. Fuck. That is all I have to say on the matter and from here on out I'm not reading any of Gervassen's posts. Only way to remain civil and not piss of Mally.

This was me responding to you. Anyway, don't be so full of yourself. This is a game. That means do not freak out because I want to stay true to the way the character we are suggesting for has been behaving. And lastly you don't need to freaking metagame, and if you must, try to do so in ways that won't backfire on us.

Now please, I don't know about you but I do not wish for this game to end. Let us just end this here.

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« Reply #3531 on: May 17, 2013, 04:40:13 am »

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I think we should try and share our 'techniques' to combat the plague with our neighbours. We can even use messages tied to arrows to do that.
I'm in agreements with Origami that we can't leave Silverhills to well... rot and fester, Its a damned shame that we couldn't prevent things from escalating there.
We don't have any techniques. The sober diet is the answer a monk/healer has to any disease he doesn't know a cure for. Basically, it's a treatment which main accomplishment is not having any negative influence.
Well, a good diet is actually better than nothing...and if the general wisdom is leeches, like the one healer prescribed, then it's definitely a step up. I don't think we know enough about the general medical knowledge of the region to say if the monk's advice would be helpful or not.

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There is also dividing the area up into warrens, releasing them back into activity when there is no plague for a set period.

my line of thinking is that if we can help our neighbours overcome to plague it means we won't be seeing refugees coming from them.


also about the refugees... us having not enough troops to keep them in check is a valid concern, maybe the Duke, the Young denton and Percival can help with this. a sort of combined effort to look after the refugees.

Leaving the Refugees to their fate will make more bandits and potentially rebels, maybe not in our lands, maybe not in our county. but aside from those maybes it will be bad for everybody.
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3532 on: May 17, 2013, 04:41:16 am »

O_O

What. The. Fuck.

What words? What actions?

This is a game. That means do not freak out

The one response was actually in a quote inside the other response with absolutely no sense of irony. I guess this is how you respond while not freaking out? Sorry, I read everything you said to me, the way it was said, as a major freak out. I am calmly telling you that I didn't care for your manner of response, and GWG is not going to tell me to change the kinds of suggestions I make so that I can once again have the lovely company of someone who charmingly addresses me with "O_O  What. The. Fuck."

Anyway, this thread has lost its enjoyment to me personally. I'm not saying I want it locked, but I'm saying I would understand the reasoning by now.
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3533 on: May 17, 2013, 04:49:02 am »

Then stop making suggestions that you know are going to cause arguements! Anyway, if this thread has lost it's enjoyment for you, stop posting in it! Leave the people who are okay with it in peace!

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« Reply #3534 on: May 17, 2013, 04:52:22 am »

It's lost its enjoyment because of the people involved, who tell me I need to suggest other things. I reiterate: my suggestions have been legitimate with a number of people agreeing, but because certain people disagree, then suddenly they're illegimate, right?
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3535 on: May 17, 2013, 05:15:22 am »

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« Reply #3536 on: May 17, 2013, 05:22:40 am »

It's lost its enjoyment because of the people involved, who tell me I need to suggest other things. I reiterate: my suggestions have been legitimate with a number of people agreeing, but because certain people disagree, then suddenly they're illegimate, right?

I never said that. I said that if you are not enjoying yourself because of your company, then leave!

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« Reply #3537 on: May 17, 2013, 05:28:53 am »

I'm honestly not angry, just weary and saddened. When someone told me that I shoulf change my style of suggesting to appease a few posters throwing unreasonable fits, I couldn't very well agree to something like that, or even tacitly allow people to think that it was acceptable to me. Who here would honestly be okay with others telling you that you had to stop making the suggestions that you like, and start making suggestions that some others prefer? Would anyone respond positively to that?
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« Reply #3538 on: May 17, 2013, 05:30:16 am »

I never said that. I said that if you are not enjoying yourself because of your company, then leave!

So you want to bully me out of this thread?
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Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« Reply #3539 on: May 17, 2013, 05:33:15 am »

Gamerlord, just ignore him. My profile -> ignore list -> add user -> Gervassen. It will be better for everyone.
Since I see "You are ignoring this user." instead of the actual post, I no longer go to super-sayan-level-rage every time I check this game.
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