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[tryrar]

I still say it should be alternating blue and green squares with a sword and a shaft of wheat

[Gotdamnmiracle]

I still say it should be alternating blue and green squares with a sword and a shaft of wheat

I will agree if we switch out the squares for flat pale red.

[Origami_Psycho]

I still say it should be alternating blue and green squares with a sword and a shaft of wheat

I will agree if we switch out the squares for flat pale red.

Why don't we swap out the sword for a Bison, and the wheat for a maple leaf, eh?

[tryrar]

....dude, no Canada imagery

[Gotdamnmiracle]

I still say it should be alternating blue and green squares with a sword and a shaft of wheat

I will agree if we switch out the squares for flat pale red.

Why don't we swap out the sword for a Bison, and the wheat for a maple leaf, eh?

Stop. It hurts.

[tryrar]

Well, I'm not budging on the alternating blue-and-green, so I guess we'll just have 2 competing designs for everyone to vote on

[Talvara]

I dunno, I kinda don't want to get into the entire heraldry thing, its a pretty personal thing I guess.

I guess I would prefer something simple and justified through the game.

like a pick for the mine? or an anchor for our river trade? or a bunch of arrows for our natural archery? I don't really know though.

[tryrar]

....I forgot about being a natural archer. Changing sword for bow/arrows then. Rest is unchanged

[Gotdamnmiracle]

I dunno, I kinda don't want to get into the entire heraldry thing, its a pretty personal thing I guess.

I guess I would prefer something simple and justified through the game.

like a pick for the mine? or an anchor for our river trade? or a bunch of arrows for our natural archery? I don't really know though.

I would be okay with this. Let our people pick. If nothing... Anchor.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I don't think there will be any objections to initiate formal courting?
but maybe we should first send a letter to Marna inquire if she would appreciated it if we were to... court her?
would that be a romantic thing to do... or the opposite of romantic? would it be too romantic and considered bad form? its sort of like sending her a letter with "I like like you".

Attend the same rigorous, bone rattling training you put your men through.

sounds decent.

Have some ice cut out and stored sometime. Good for conservation in summer.

I erhm... dont think you can 'store ice', even during the time of that french king who'se name I forgot... they had to send guys up a mountain to get snow/ice so that they could have icecream.

Well, the whole idea of asking permission is so that you don't step on anyones toes, but courting is the process of establishing the relationship, not
neccecarilly a guarantee of marriage. We make our intentions clear during courtship, not before.

Attend the same rigorous, bone rattling training you put your men through.

This sounds good.

This stuff sounds pretty good.

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As for heraldry...let's consider our land:
River for trading
Rich mine

Our people:
Farmers
Potters
Archers
Brewers
Eventually, Traders

Ourself:
Commoner
Archer
Warrior

Hm...
How about a red "hill" (clay, wine, hills), with a darker circle on it (a mine), a blue line (the river), some green (for the verdant fields), a simple home on top of the hill, and some arrows incorporated into the design somewhere, with a golden sky?

[kaian-a-coel]

Things to do:

-Send a letter to the duke asking for a meeting, about "various things". By which we mean Formal presentations, the mine, and his niece.
-Send someone, probably Irlof+someone knowing about horses+small escort buy ourself a better horse than the old thing we have right now.
-start using the mine outcome. Take for ourselves a neatly-sized gold nugget (about thumbnail-sized). Keep it raw, set it inside a stylized sun in marteled silver and wear it as a necklace. It will advertize to all who see it that our land is rich and we are proud of that, but we refuse to get too showy about it. It's like a metaphor of ourselves (with jewelry = nobility): we may be unrefined, but we are of comparable worth.

For the heraldry, keep it very simple. Green with a blue diagonal strip going upper left-bottom right. In the upper right corner, a silver sun with a golden core.

[Gotdamnmiracle]

Like above! /\

[tryrar]

...Kaian, that actually sounds more awesome than mine! Switching vote to yours

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

I think its a bad idea to start talking about marriage with the niece of a duke while we still live in a thatched roof shanty. We should build a (small) proper manor in the spring. Then start officially courting Marna.

[tryrar]

We should at least get her uncle to give permission first, it's not like we'd marry her IMMEDIATELY(these things historically took time, so we have some leeway to get our manor built)