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[hairypotatoes]

i think we should start as early as possible and shape the history the whole way through i like that idea more than the whole foreigner idea just my 2 cents

[Eric Blank]

Sounds like you guys going to do that 'challenge start at the dawn of time' thread in the dwarf mode discussion thread.

I think that'd be pretty awesome, now that it's actually going to be semi-feasible with the population being maintained 50 years after beginning. There won't be any new sites that we didn't build, unfortunately. I personally think a short history of 100 years would be fair.

Also, might as well put me on the list finally. I enjoy succession games.

[Inarius]

1 week per people = 1 year of playing = A "permanent" succession game which will last until...the next update !

[Lolfail0009]

Perfect!

[Yuli Vlasi]

It's just that if an entire dwarven kingdom is supposed to be started by refugees from another world, then their rich worldgen history will get in the way unless we start as early as possible.

I thought that the whole idea was to start as early as possible? And then see how far we can carry the world along and watch it evolve.

There won't be any new sites that we didn't build, unfortunately. I personally think a short history of 100 years would be fair.

How about a compromiss? We generate the world with a history of about 100 to 150 years maybe longer and have the shipwrecked dwarves. Those dwarves would then be discovered by a dwarven caravan and after a few years they would be allowed to join the local dwarven kingdom.
That way we can have mastahcheese's introduction to the new features and procedurally generated sites with their own history.

I do also agree with most of the stuff HugoLuman suggested:
Diversety is important.
EDIT: Quoting mastahcheese's first post: 'I can imagine a world being genned from year two (or zero if someone has figured out how), and advancing onward  into years with triple digits, possibly even quadruple if the world is just that good.'

The idea was to start a world from the very beginning and shape it as time progresses. Although I would prefer a world with pregenerated sites and historical figures I think it's up to mastahcheese to decide. If we start at year one, we start at year one.

btw op, when the time comes to generate worlds, could you provide multiple ones so everyone can take a look at them before we choose wich one we want to play on?

[mastahcheese]

btw op, when the time comes to generate worlds, could you provide multiple ones so everyone can take a look at them before we choose wich one we want to play on?

Of course.

[Spish]

If I may make a suggestion: first generate the world taking only the terrain seed into account, we pick based on that, and then adjust our good/evil values accordingly. Then regenerate versions with a different nameseed, then history seed and creature seed. We can afford to be picky with a world we'll most likely be stuck with for an entire year.

[Mesa]

I wish we end up with a world that is reminiscent of my current world - ie. it contains an isolated evil island filled with towers and dark fortresses.
But that's just me.

[Orange Wizard]

The Evil Island needs to be a short swim from The Normal Island, which is also just a short swim from The Good Island.

But this is DF, and as such, every island contains the same stuff. I'll leave it up to you to decide what.

[Inarius]

Well, swimming is ok, but we can also build  "tunnel fortresses" with just a tunnel under the water, and then retire.

[Spish]

Additionally, I imagine adv-fort would allow us to build long bridges/tunnels/underground roads without having to make multiple fortresses over massive swaths of ocean.

[WillowLuman]

Additionally, I imagine adv-fort would allow us to build long bridges/tunnels/underground roads without having to make multiple fortresses over massive swaths of ocean.

But where's the fun in that? I don't think someone could swim across a vast swath of ocean in a week (merely holding down 'w' or whatever), let alone dig it. Then again, bridges / tunnels are only really possible if you can cover the area with 1 or 2 embarks, since there's nowhere for the dwarves to safely start in out in the middle of the ocean.

[Spish]

Well obviously there would need to be fortresses on each side, the adventurer is for everything in between. You could just say the dwarves did it
(or legendary architect adventurer)

I should rephrase that, "more than two fortresses" is what I meant.

[WillowLuman]

Well, if you dig a path down to the caverns on each side, then as long as you genned a world with wide open caverns (which I say we do, no twisty honeycomb passages that go nowhere and get blocked by fungus trees!) the sites are basically connected.

[Spish]

Not necessarily. Regardless of how huge, the caverns do end at some point, and potentially large sections of a cavern could be flooded with water (think of the non-swimmers!). Hiring a miner-roadbuilder would ensure that this doesn't get in the way.

Then again, like you said, there is the adventure factor in navigating the unmarked cavern system from Point A to Point B. I suppose we could just have the miner test the route and make sure there are no dead-ends along the way.