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GoombaGeek

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Making cold containers and gases
« on: December 29, 2012, 02:11:02 pm »

I've been fooling around with a system to hold things that are gaseous at room temperature in very cold containers, but I have a bunch of questions to ask now.

1. Will a material in a very cold container stay liquid?
2. If yes, if a reaction produces a "gas" that must be inside the cold container, would this material go directly to the container without sublimating?
3. What is the best way to define a gas? I used the inorganic_metal template because I know how to work with it the most.
4. Will the liquid be able to be stored inside a flask specifically?
5. Will the liquid be useable in reactions? If so, how?
6. If the gas is solid at low temperatures, will it still be flaskable, or will a different cold container be required?
7. If you have a flask full of liquid gas, how is the value of that calculated?
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Re: Making cold containers and gases
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 02:52:54 pm »

I'm answering these to the best of my ability:

1- container temperature has no effect on the temperature of its contents i.e. a nethercap barrel won't cause booze to freeze
2- I'm unsure of the dynamics of gases produced in reactions and set to be put in a container-There isn't a tag anywhere that refers to a 'gas_container,' although we have plenty for liquids
3- Best way to define a gas would be to just set [MELTING_POINT:(low number)] and [BOILING_POINT:10000]. The template you use has no bearing on this
4- You can make a reaction that takes a flask as reagent A, and add the tag after your liquid product [PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:A]
5- Yes- you just have to add the flask and the liquid as reagents, i.e.- [REAGENT:A:1:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:INORGANIC:TESTLIQUIDROCK]
[REAGENT:B:1:FLASK:NONE:NONE:NONE][CONTAINS:A]     -This should work (replace testliquidrock with whatever your inorganic_thing is.)
6- Cold container is irrelevant, so unless it is solid at 10067 degree urist, it won't matter.
7- Unsure whether you can have a flask of liquid gas, don't know of any testing done on it. !!SCIENCE!! is necessary. Do it, young grasshopper.
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Re: Making cold containers and gases
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 05:08:07 pm »

Nethercap container isn't cold enough to freeze water. It would do so if it was colder.

Nethercap container didn't prevent water from boiling to steam upon lava immersion.

Gases in DF appear to escape from containers instantly.

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Re: Making cold containers and gases
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 06:22:54 pm »

Sooo... I could make a container that is really hot, but wont melt/boil away, and whenever someone puts something in it, it will instantly boil?

That would make affecting dwarves with syndromes from boiling rocks easier, because you just create 10 items, and have him put them one by one into it, causing the stuff to boil away.
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