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[Graknorke]

Trolling is a phenomenon. It has been described multiple times. Are you denying that the phenomenon of trolling exists?

[Wolfy]

I'm saying trolling is not a  phenomenon, its no diffident then any other word, we can switch it at any time that society decides to

there is nothing special about it that demands we keep it the same, its an advaced way to exsplain the axction of baiting someone, getting a rise etc

we have had that long before the internet was around

[freeformschooler]

there is nothing special about it that demands we keep it the same, its an advaced way to exsplain the axction of baiting someone, getting a rise etc

we have had that long before the internet was around

I agree, but "troll" is, at least properly, used to refer to someone who regularly does those things or joins a community exclusively to do them. There's not a specific word to describe someone like that. There's jerks, annoying runts, or "assholes," sure, but "troll" refers to someone who primarily baits/gets a rise out of someone. It's a valid word that has a place in our language, just commonly misused.

[Graknorke]

I'm saying trolling is not a  phenomenon, its no diffident then any other word, we can switch it at any time that society decides to

there is nothing special about it that demands we keep it the same, its an advaced way to exsplain the axction of baiting someone, getting a rise etc

we have had that long before the internet was around

I don't think that you understand the concept of a phenomenon. It's something that happens. Like combustion, or gravity, or horses, or photosynthesis, or childbirth, basically anything that happens is a phenomenon.

[Loud Whispers]

Your the one going in circles, you keep saying "its a  phenomenon" I keep asking how is it and you keep saying "its a  phenomenon" as your awnser

What you have here is the questioning of morality, the uses and abuses of anonymity and activism of a sort never before recorded in history, done by ordinary people. You've generalized and this is inadequate as a definition and barely even functional. It brushes away one large impact internet culture has made on the real world in a way that is clearly never going to be seen in a neutral or objective way, as the end goal is not always even to get a reaction.
This is trolling.

This is a phenomenon, a fact observed to exist.

what makes this diffreint form the word gay in anyway?

troll could mean anything by that logic, you cant just say "well gay can mean gay causes that the old way but troll MUST mean this"

*This isn't logic. You brought up gay. English has changed during the past 400 years. Troll means that; it is however incorrectly applied to mean every nonsensical annoyance, this is detrimental to actually identifying real cases of trolling, especially where trolling can be a ban-able offence on most forums. Rendering a great descriptive word into a jug of watered down water. This means no two persons rarely have a singular definition or general concensus on what a word means - at which the word becomes useless or just an every day colloquial euphemism. Such a waste for one of the few great words internet culture has invented.

I've been avoiding trying to walk around in circles; and only by doing things that avoided me having to literally rehash things I've already said.

[Wolfy]

I don't think that you understand the concept of a phenomenon. It's something that happens. Like combustion, or gravity, or horses, or photosynthesis, or childbirth, basically anything that happens is a phenomenon.

But being gay is a phenomena (being happy) why was it okay to chnage that one?

"trolling" is not a fact, the word it self is abstract, trolling could easily mean pizza, the word it self is in no way a phenomenon, the action, which can be described with any word ti happens to be in that day and age, is the phenomenon

 

[Graknorke]

I don't think that you understand the concept of a phenomenon. It's something that happens. Like combustion, or gravity, or horses, or photosynthesis, or childbirth, basically anything that happens is a phenomenon.

But being gay is a phenomena (being happy) why was it okay to chnage that one?

"trolling" is not a fact, the word it self is abstract, trolling could easily mean pizza, the word it self is in no way a phenomenon, the action, which can be described with any word ti happens to be in that day and age, is the phenomenon

But we use the word trolling to describe a phenomenon. When people use it to describe other things it brings to mind the phenomenon that it describes; when that is actually not the case.

[Wolfy]

Gay was used to describe being happy, it is now used for homosexual behavior and or stupid behavior which is "right"?

[fqllve]

It still means happy. It means all those things.

Except the last one, most adults do not use gay to mean stupid. That is slang and slang always gets prefaced with [slang].

[Wolfy]

You do know that troll is defined as internet slang right>?

[Loud Whispers]

I don't think that you understand the concept of a phenomenon. It's something that happens. Like combustion, or gravity, or horses, or photosynthesis, or childbirth, basically anything that happens is a phenomenon.

But being gay is a phenomena (being happy) why was it okay to chnage that one?

I have to say this, troll means what ever the hell who ever says it wants it to mean, or should I tell you how many words you use now days that are "used wrong" call a person who likes the same sex gay? EHHHHH wrong, gay means happy

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Definition of GAY
1
a : happily excited : merry <in a gay mood>
b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits <a bird's gay spring song>
2
a : bright, lively <gay sunny meadows>
b : brilliant in color
3
: given to social pleasures; also : licentious
4
a : homosexual <gay men>
b : of, relating to, or used by homosexuals <the gay rights movement> <a gay bar>

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why should we have to use a cumbersome and rather obtuse phrase when the word trolling perfectly evokes what's going on through it's source (ie fishing)?

Most of the time I'm perfectly ok with linguistic change, it happens and you have to deal with. In this case, though, it kind of sucks, because trolling is an interesting phenomenon and now there's basically no word to describe it even though their once was, because its meaning has been way too diluted.

CIRCLES IN MY CIRCLES

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Firstly, there is room for multiple definitions of one word. Secondly, almost no one uses the word trolling as loosely as the article linked in the OP because that includes things that literally aren't trolling, flaming, or at all malicious. Thirdly, different groups tend to have differing definitions of the same word. And fourthly, no matter how much of a descriptivist you are, and trust me I'm a huge one, people are allowed to try to resist linguistic change and you're basically arguing that they shouldn't bother, which is against the spirit of populist definitions.

Yes you are being circular.

"trolling" is not a fact, the word it self is abstract, trolling could easily mean pizza, the word it self is in no way a phenomenon, the action, which can be described with any word ti happens to be in that day and age, is the phenomenon

Confused puppies ;-;
Phenomena are not words, words are words. Words that describe phenomena are adjectives, verbs, nouns or some spicy flavour thereof.
As Bruno Mars has observed, trolling has been observed, this is a fact; it is a phenomena.

[fqllve]

...I just... do not even know what to say to that.

I didn't even say anything about the word troll in that post but ok. Nope sure didn't know that one.

[Graknorke]

I think you messed up your quotes a bit there.

[Loud Whispers]

I think you messed up your quotes a bit there.

That's actually quoting a quote that had already been quoted to show Wolfy the answer to the question Wolfy's asked... And been answered, repeatedly.
It's like watching a tree grow by counting the rings in its trunk, but only with more circles.

[Wolfy]

My point is your saying gay to mean stupid is "okay" since its just slang, but troll is internet slang
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Internet_troll/draft

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so why cant this one add more to trolling?> the awns e is because you don't want it to, nothing about it makes it HAVE to stay in that single definition other then you want it to

Trolling is adding more things to it and so that it can mean to do what ti did original but also can mean to flame etc

also you have awnserd nothing you give "answers" that dont answer, and then say I'm going around in circles, when in fact your the one who is making it happen by not giving a true answer.