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[mscantrell]

No educational material here, folks- flameaway's got it all covered.

Just posting to say that gently plowing a cheesemaker with an empty oaken cart for the first time is quite a feeling.

You gotta try it!

[Sunday]

I did the same. Now I'm trying to figure out how to better weaponize it.

But crushing dwarfs is pretty fun. . .

[Cobbler89]

Oh, is that the name for when you put a simple loop of track across the middle of your fortress and power one end of it to get the cart to go around and around?

I did that experimenting with arcing airborne physics -- buncha rollers, a dip down and ramp back up... would probably have worked better with a ramp up from the ground level and no dip, but the real issue was the way my dwarves could not be made not to walk across the deathline.

To be honest, I have yet to get the hang of using minecarts to actually make hauling more efficient -- seems like you'd still need to have everything in more or less a finite number of places, each with certain sorting applied, and my biggest hauling problem was the time it takes to gather everything into one place in the first place. *shrug* It seems like they might help for forts with well organized production cycles though, I'm just not that good at being well organized about it.

Anyway, I think I prefer to call the cyclotron the "Blameless, Unbiased, Random Dedwarfinator", or BURD for short.

[Drazinononda]

I have yet to get the hang of using minecarts to actually make hauling more efficient

The only time I've ever used them effectively for this is on low-ore sites, to take bought ores from the trade depot on the surface to the forges above the magma sea. That's pretty much it.

gently plowing a cheesemaker with an empty oaken cart for the first time is quite a feeling.

In the back seat of the minecart, I assume.

[CaptainArchmage]

I have yet to get the hang of using minecarts to actually make hauling more efficient

The only time I've ever used them effectively for this is on low-ore sites, to take bought ores from the trade depot on the surface to the forges above the magma sea. That's pretty much it.

gently plowing a cheesemaker with an empty oaken cart for the first time is quite a feeling.

In the back seat of the minecart, I assume.

Oaken carts? Whatever happened to the +platinum minecart+? Or the +lead minecart+ or +gold minecart+ for that matter.

[Orange Wizard]

I'm pretty sure my ☼slade minecart☼ is better.

[mscantrell]

Oaken carts? Whatever happened to the +platinum minecart+? Or the +lead minecart+ or +gold minecart+ for that matter.

Just getting set up and tested right now. The cheesemaker lived, even, which is what I was hoping for. For goblins, -bronze- with boulders.

[flameaway]

Congrats on the cyclotron.

I haven't found minecarts (using track) very helpful for hauling.  Mostly because the setup time for track is much longer than simply having a dwarf carry loaded minecarts about.  (that and you can simply toss a loaded mining cart completely across the map in just a few ticks using a few track ramps.  Dwarf carrying is better though because it enables you to auto filter all the stuff your dwarves make. Just take a bit of setup using track stops and routes. Once a system is working everything happens on the fly.  It's really neat to watch. 

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=114748.msg3890950#msg3890950

Check out this topic for efficient hauling suggestions using minecarts.

Minecarts and these automated quantum dumps are helpful for organizing your fortress, and reducing sprawl.  And they aren't that difficult to setup.  (quite a few steps to set each quantum dump up, but most of the difficulty is just setting all the parameters for cart movement.  That's just menu commands, so it's a matter of messing about in the route menu, until you understand how carts load and unload from stockpiles.  Not difficult, not trivial.)

I restarted my fortress so that I could implement automated quantum dumps.  The hardest part of the process was adapting my room designs to a smaller, dwarf-step saving, footprint.

I have one of these systems mostly setup now, and it's really interesting watching dwarves clean out a trade depot after trading.  It's a pleasingly efficient process now.

[Skorpion]

So, would a cyclotron be a suitable method of training a medical staff?

[flameaway]

It's a suitable method for killing your medical staff.  If you don't forbid that high speed mining cart cycling around...

However, anyone that survives will need treatment from any of your surviving doctors...

So I guess thats training.