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Author Topic: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.  (Read 66477 times)

Criptfeind

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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 04:31:30 am »
That's what the rotation is for no? Does that not work just as well?
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2012, 04:33:11 am »
I dont think it dose... even the ones orbiting earth cant stay there the whole time and often have problems, maybe mars stuff makes it less work but idk...

plus how long dose it take us to get to mars?

Can our suits survive on mars? the moon is one thing, mars is another.
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2012, 04:36:13 am »
Well, i guess it's about the same, if a tad more liveable.
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2012, 05:33:14 am »
Quote from: Criptfeind on December 21, 2012, 04:31:30 am
That's what the rotation is for no? Does that not work just as well?
No.  It doesn't work as well.
But the gravity shift is going to be an issue for every planet but maybe Venus.
But a rotating station won't have the same gravity as earth.
Not reasonably, in any case.
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2012, 05:41:05 am »
Are you sure about this? Because to be honest I just looked it up in wikipdedia and it says that is a acceptable solution for a sufficiently large station.

Maybe I was unclear, I don't mean rotating around a planet, but rather rotating around in space, like a giant hollow top.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2012, 05:53:48 am »
I'm sure we'll figure it out.  Necessity is the mother of invention, and there ain't half been some clever bastards.
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2012, 05:56:35 am »
Living on Mars would suck.
1. Interplanetary internet: Think 56K download speeds, with up to 23 minutes of one-way latency depending on planetary positions. Which means to load a web page, it would take hours for the data transmission to complete. Bandwidth is limited by the need to pipe it up through a space network, where it is then transferred by long range communications means, rather than the high-speed fiber we have on earth. Imagine how many of your posts would get ninjaed if it took you a bare minimum of 3 hours to read and send a response to a thread.
2. Living space: You get a tiny pod to live in, in a small community of small pods, with very little ability to leave. Imagine being stuck in the same small apartment, with the same neighbors, but for the rest of your life.
3. The novelty wears off fast. It would be awesome for a month or so; after that, you realize that 'oh, hey, I could have got the same view without all the negatives if I had bought a house in Death Valley.'
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2012, 06:18:10 am »
Also, with such a thin athmosphere and no magnetosphere, cosmic ray are going to slowly fry you.
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 06:26:48 am »
No, those issues would be solved one way or another before sending any colony there. Be it through burying most of it underground or some form of radiation shielding or medical mitigation techniques.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2012, 06:42:31 am »
Quote from: alway on December 21, 2012, 06:26:48 am
No, those issues would be solved one way or another before sending any colony there. Be it through burying most of it underground or some form of radiation shielding or medical mitigation techniques.
So now we're bringing excavation equipment or substantial heavy shielding.  I hate to poopoo the idea of a manned mission to Mars, but we're a long way away.

Keep in mind that anybody we sent there are likely be stuck there for about 2 years while they wait for Mars and Earth to be close enough to make the return trip practical. 
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 06:54:53 am »
And even then we DONT have the tech that can go to mars, a lot of pepole think we do but we dont, it takes a LOT more
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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 06:59:12 am »
It'll be within this century, barring WW3 or a new plague.  Think how far we've come in the last ninety years.
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 07:45:05 am »
Quote from: alway on December 21, 2012, 06:26:48 am
No, those issues would be solved one way or another before sending any colony there. Be it through burying most of it underground or some form of radiation shielding or medical mitigation techniques.
I think it's more likely the former; as how the fuck would you go about repairing or mitigating damage to genetic material efficiently?
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2012, 07:50:24 am »
we've only returned stuff from further out than the moon a handful of times, and in each case that was a robotic pod with a small sample. huge jump to talk about returning people from mars. Same theory, sure, but its still a huge effort.
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Re: Humans, and eventually a colony on Mars.
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 08:55:57 am »
The moment scientists can create an isolatable bio-literal-sphere is the moment I support the colonization of Mars.
Which is close, I guess. I'll also settle for biosphere with minimum help, too.
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