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[Strife26]

But why would you believe that the lives of those hundred where worth less than the one they where killing?

Yes, because the willingness to take an innocent life puts you at a damn low value.

[Dorten]

And who will judge whether that life was innocent? You?

[Scelly9]

But why would you believe that the lives of those hundred where worth less than the one they where killing?

Yes, because the willingness to take an innocent life puts you at a damn low value.

What if they where attempting to kill him because he killed someone?

[Urist_McDrowner]

But why would you believe that the lives of those hundred where worth less than the one they where killing?

It's merely a question of justice. Killing must be accompanied with a just reason. If it is not, if I were able to prevent it, I would do all in my power to prevent the killing. If the killers continue to prosecute their murderous designs, then I would kill them. The difference is this. That one person had no choice in whether they die or not. The killers do. If they cease being a threat, they will be left alone.

[Scelly9]

But why would you believe that the lives of those hundred where worth less than the one they where killing?

It's merely a question of justice. Killing must be accompanied with a just reason. If it is not, if I were able to prevent it, I would do all in my power to prevent the killing. If the killers continue to prosecute their murderous designs, then I would kill them. The difference is this. That one person had no choice in whether they die or not. The killers do. If they cease being a threat, they will be left alone.

Again, what if they killed him before you where able to tell them of the choice? To them, it's not a choice of not kill, or be killed, it's a choice of not kill, or kill. Would you still kill them then?

[Thecard]

(Weird, my only decent family is on my mother's side. In Canada.)

Y'know, I think there's a reason for this, and it's not so weird.

It's called being Canadians.


Also, I believe killing is amoral, unless there is no other option for self defense or defense of others.

And there is some discretion.  Executions make absolutely no sense to me, unless there is legitimate threat of escape that cannot be solved in another way.
But someone crazy asshole's trying to kill you and your family, and you don't happen to have a taser with you?  Go for the fucking jugular, or whatever it is you guys do to kill crazy assholes trying to kill you and your family.

[Urist_McDrowner]

But why would you believe that the lives of those hundred where worth less than the one they where killing?

It's merely a question of justice. Killing must be accompanied with a just reason. If it is not, if I were able to prevent it, I would do all in my power to prevent the killing. If the killers continue to prosecute their murderous designs, then I would kill them. The difference is this. That one person had no choice in whether they die or not. The killers do. If they cease being a threat, they will be left alone.

Again, what if they killed him before you where able to tell them of the choice? To them, it's not a choice of not kill, or be killed, it's a choice of not kill, or kill. Would you still kill them then?

If they had already killed the guy? I'd first assess if they were an active threat to anyone else. If yes? Kill. If no, Apprehend or subdue them if possible. Not possible? Kill them.

If they don't know about the choice, and my option was still to preemptively kill them, I still would, because by not understanding the consequences of killing they are an active threat to society.

[Scelly9]

So, if they where killing someone for revenge, would you stop them?

[misko27]

(Weird, my only decent family is on my mother's side. In Canada.)

Y'know, I think there's a reason for this, and it's not so weird.

It's called being Canadians.

I think we can all agree that this argument proves one thing: when people don't share your value systems, you can look at the same thing and see completely different interpretations, with no resolution.
 
So, someone brief me, where is this argument currently?

[Hanslanda]

Gamerlord left, Urist McDowner and Scelly are currently debating the morality of killing someone that was about to kill someone else, and most of the people posting have the same point that, "I'd kill if it were in defense of myself or another."
Other than that, I'm not sure.

[Xantalos]

Gamerlord left, Urist McDowner and Scelly are currently debating the morality of killing someone that was about to kill someone else, and most of the people posting have the same point that, "I'd kill if it were in defense of myself or another."
Other than that, I'm not sure.

Me and DZA seem to be in the borderline sociopath category.

[Gamerlord]

Gamerlord left, Urist McDowner and Scelly are currently debating the morality of killing someone that was about to kill someone else, and most of the people posting have the same point that, "I'd kill if it were in defense of myself or another."
Other than that, I'm not sure.

I'm still here, just lurking.

[Scelly9]

Gamerlord left, Urist McDowner and Scelly are currently debating the morality of killing someone that was about to kill someone else, and most of the people posting have the same point that, "I'd kill if it were in defense of myself or another."
Other than that, I'm not sure.

Me and DZA seem to be in the borderline sociopath category.

Borderline?

[Xantalos]

Gamerlord left, Urist McDowner and Scelly are currently debating the morality of killing someone that was about to kill someone else, and most of the people posting have the same point that, "I'd kill if it were in defense of myself or another."
Other than that, I'm not sure.

Me and DZA seem to be in the borderline sociopath category.

Borderline?

Does it count as borderline if you haven't killed anyone?

[misko27]

As an actual sociopath, I find this interesting.
 
So. Self-defense. Even the Dwarf Fortress ELVES find that acceptable.