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Author Topic: The Morality of Killing  (Read 14549 times)

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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #225 on: December 21, 2012, 01:20:01 am »

I'd rather be killed than kill anything else intentionally.

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It has, but that probably has a bit more to do with the vasectomy.  Kids poop too much.

E: Don't get me wrong, I'd kill to save the lives of a greater quantity of other people, but I wouldn't be able to live with having done so.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #226 on: December 21, 2012, 01:22:29 am »

I'd rather be killed than kill anything else intentionally.

The genepool bids you farewell, pacifist!

It has, but that probably has a bit more to do with the vasectomy.  Kids poop too much.
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I think the slaughter part is what made them angry.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2012, 01:29:57 am »

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Greatest good for the greatest number. But, wow, kill yourself? That's, pretty harsh for justified killing.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #228 on: December 21, 2012, 03:32:50 am »

So what if it was between 4 people and 5 people?  Would killing yourself mean you only saved four people, because you're now a negative life?
What if two of the four are pregnant?  What if two of the four could be pregnant, but hey other just be a bit chubby?

What about the babies you're carry-- oh...

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I think the slaughter part is what made them angry.
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Those hookers aren't getting out any time soon, no matter how many fancy gadgets they have :v

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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #229 on: December 21, 2012, 07:02:59 am »

If only I knew how to phonetically write a sigh.

*sigh*
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I do prefer the * one, but that's me.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #230 on: December 21, 2012, 07:37:27 am »

Okay, I was thinking,
Has anyone read The Giver?
The type of community in the book is much more docile than the one in my mind, but it makes the point.

That was a horrible book. But I do (kinda) support what happend

But society is really screwed up right now in how actions get rewarded. People who make the world go 'round get payed the least (Farmers, sanitation plant workers, factory workers etc.) While people who do mostly things that are useless get paid the most. Art critics, bankers, the guys who made Angry birds, etc. More later

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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #231 on: December 21, 2012, 08:54:11 am »

I am torn with the morality of killing as part of me want people to break out in a war or some thing and end overpopulation, but part of me want to survive and feels that it is selfish to not let others survive, too.
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« Reply #232 on: December 21, 2012, 08:56:36 am »

You do realize that war would not solve overpopulation at all right?
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« Reply #233 on: December 21, 2012, 08:59:56 am »

You do realize that war would not solve overpopulation at all right?
Evidence?
War will result in holocaust, assuming the future soldiers aren't pansies controlling robots, which will result in deaths.
Deaths result in decrease in population.
Decrease in population is the opposite of increase in population.
Increase in population cause overpopulation.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #234 on: December 21, 2012, 09:01:52 am »

Increase in population cause overpopulation.

Wrong. Overpopulation is not caused by too many people, but rather by a lack of resources and a misappropriation of the resources there is. Which a war will only make worse.

If you lose 10% of your population, but 20% of your resources, the survivors are actually poorer then before.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #235 on: December 21, 2012, 09:05:04 am »


Wrong. Overpopulation is not caused by too many people, but rather by a lack of resources and a misappropriation of the resources there is. Which a war will only make worse.

If you lose 10% of your population, but 20% of your resources, the survivors are actually poorer then before.
I've never thought it that way before, I suppose.
I guess whatever I said about war I just meant I want a lot of people to die so that overpopulation will be over.
And just as a guilty wish, I'm not that deranged.
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« Reply #236 on: December 21, 2012, 09:07:40 am »

That still won't help. Whatever the cause the issue is that the people who die are also the people who create things others need to live. It's just part of living in a society, each loss weakens the whole and the issues we have go deeper then 'to many people'.

You would have to lose really quite specific demographics to make any sort of headway, and even that headway would not really be much. (And when you consider past the physical, into the cultural and mental losses it could be considered even worse.)
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #237 on: December 21, 2012, 09:10:12 am »

That still won't help. Whatever the cause the issue is that the people who die are also the people who create things others need to live. It's just part of living in a society, each loss weakens the whole and the issues we have go deeper then 'to many people'.

You would have to lose really quite specific demographics to make any sort of headway, and even that headway would not really be much.
Then I guess in that case I'm against killing because I like living and I think it would only be fair to treat others the same.
Unless if they try to kill me I suppose killing would be okay in that case.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #238 on: December 21, 2012, 09:54:23 am »

I'd rather be killed than kill anything else intentionally.

The genepool bids you farewell, pacifist!

It has, but that probably has a bit more to do with the vasectomy.  Kids poop too much.

E: Don't get me wrong, I'd kill to save the lives of a greater quantity of other people, but I wouldn't be able to live with having done so.

Which would be selfish.
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Re: The Morality of Killing
« Reply #239 on: December 21, 2012, 09:57:56 am »

Possibly.
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