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On Writing
« on: December 18, 2012, 10:30:38 pm »

New Stuff: My 90-day exclusive with Amazon is going to be ending soon, but I still have 3 days left of free ebook promotion. Therefore, this Friday (the 8th) through Sunday (the 10th) both my books will be available for free, for anyone who hasn't picked up my books during the last couple of times I gave my books out for free.


After years (mostly on and off) of writing and editing, I’ve finally managed to scrounge up enough decent words that I’ve managed to string them together into sentences, paragraphs, and stories.  Those stories are now packaged and e-published. Since I don’t want this topic to just be a shill (buy my books!)  Let me talk about the processes involved in getting to this point and my thoughts.

First is, in my opinion, the easiest part of all: Come up with an idea.
I think that everyone has at least one idea floating around their heads; something that they think would make a good story. Nowadays, for a book, that idea is all that you need – no longer are authors tied to the physical publishing giants if they want their ideas to become something real. Although traditional publishing is still alive and well, there is a big (and growing) market for electronic-only books. All I have to do is type the words on the computer and I can make a product, something that would have been impossible a few short decades ago.

Which brings us to the second part: Writing it down.
This is where I’d guess (pulling a number out of my ass) 90% of the ideas that I just talked about die. Why do they die? Because actually sitting down and writing is hard. There are a million other things you could be doing other then writing, and virtually all of them offer a lot more short-term reward. It’s hours and hours of sitting in front of a screen, tapping on the keyboard, trying to turn those ideas into something concrete.

Part three: Editing.
I’d wager this kills another segment of pieces: You’ve finally gotten all your thoughts down, hundreds or thousands or even tens of thousands of words – now it's time to take those words and make sure that they actually form a coherent story. You’d think that once you’ve put in all that effort to actually write the thing, it should be easy to just make corrections, but it can be a harrowing process. Entire sections of your work might not gel the way that you’d originally intended and end up needing a rewrite, or worse - in the trash.

Part four: More editing (by other people this time.)
In any work, I believe that there is a point when you simply can no longer see the faults. You know the story backwards and forwards; you know the motivations, the characters, the places, and the back story. Because of this, your eyes will just jump over faults that someone who is coming at the story cold would point out immediately. For example, perhaps what you thought was an obvious connection between Aggie and Bob turns out to need the knowledge that both Bob and Aggie went to school together, something that you knew (in your head,) but never actually put down in the story.

This part was, by far, the hardest for me, although perhaps not for the reasons you might think. Not because I was ashamed of my writing or afraid of feedback – it was because, unless you’re actually paying them to do it, it’s really damn hard to get people to read your stuff and give you useful feedback. Oh, sure, your friends and family will take your story; they’ll promise to read it and get it back to you.
“I’d be happy to,” they’ll say, when you tell them that you’d really like their input so that you can publish. That’s right; they’ll look you right in the eye and lie to you. And worse, they’ll act indignant when you start pestering them after the second or third (or twelfth) week. “No, I still haven’t gotten around to it; I’ll do it next week, promise.”

Honestly, if it weren’t for the fact that we desperately need them, I’d tell you to leave them out entirely. However, despite reading through my own stories dozens of times, I’ve still managed to leave words out, mangle spellings (what, you mean it’s bated breath, not baited?) and various other corrections that improve my stories which I almost certainly wouldn’t have done on my own.

Part five: Final touches.
You need everything in the correct formats, and make sure that everything looks good in that format. Getting chapter headings working can be a hassle – with one of my books, all I needed to do was DOC -> RTF -> MOBI through Calibre and everything pretty much just turned out right. My other book, however, didn’t format cleanly, and as a result I had to go from DOC -> RTF -> EPUB, edit the book through Sigil, and then move that to MOBI with Calibre.

Books need covers – especially e-books, since that cover is pretty much the only thing that most people will glimpse before deciding if they’re going to look any closer. Small things, but they can be time consuming. I spent a day working on the cover art for my two books, tweaking things to where I liked them, then getting some feedback from others (luckily, this feedback is easier, since you can pretty much just shove the picture in someone’s face, and they’ll be able to tell you immediately if they like it or not.) Take all advice with a grain of salt.

Part six: Publication.
Actually getting your book into Amazon proved to be a fairly painless process, I’m relieved to say. Just upload all the bits, fill in some forms, set a price and wait for review.
Review times, for me, averaged a couple of hours, then there's a "publishing" window that takes another 6-10 hours. Congratulations! You’re now a published author! You can now obsessively hit the f5 key on your monthly sales report.

Note: I chose Amazon because if you agree to a 90-day exclusive with them, they'll give you perks, like the fact that Prime members can look at the books for free (which makes people that much more likely to actually, you know, download something.) After the 90 days pass I'll probably look into publishing on other platforms.


Finally, on to my books:

A novelette, titled “Entangled Realities.” It’s a mix of high fantasy, science fiction and contemporary fiction. It’s roughly 10,000 words long, and is available for 99 cents (or free, if you’re an Amazon Prime member.)

A collection of short stories, titled “Fire and Other Short Stories.” There are 16 pieces, which are mostly a mix of science fiction or fiction with fantastic elements. It weighs in at 28,000 words, and is available for $2.99 (or, again, free through Amazon Prime.)

You can also read the first couple of pages of both pieces without Prime, to see if my writing style agrees with you.
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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 12:07:35 am »

Interfying. ptw.
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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 12:46:37 am »

Looks like you have to have a Kindle to get them free with Prime. Which is fine, because it's clear you spent a lot of time working on them and the price is reasonable. I especially like the cover for Entangled Realities. Clean, simple, effective, and yet still aesthetically pleasing. I'll check that out tomorrow and probably even drop you a review (which will be my first) just because you're a Bay 12er.

edit: Oh man, I hate to be the one to point this out, but the first sentence of Entangled Realities leaves out the word 'of' after "at the top." Which isn't really a bad error... except it's in the first sentence. Is there any way you can upload a new MS?
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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 02:02:44 am »

edit: Oh man, I hate to be the one to point this out, but the first sentence of Entangled Realities leaves out the word 'of' after "at the top." Which isn't really a bad error... except it's in the first sentence. Is there any way you can upload a new MS?

Oh, FFS - I'm not even sure how that made it in, since I'm looking at an OLDER version that has that 'of' in it.

But you are entirely correct, it's definitely missing.

Thankfully, I can, in fact make a change, although I don't think it'll show up for ~12 hours.

edit: version 1.1 is up. I'm not planning on doing that for every little correction, but as fqllve mentions, the first sentence is kinda a big one. Don't want to turn people off in the first handful of words.
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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 03:10:13 pm »

Nice and well-thought out post. Inspires me to get back to my writing as well, thanks. Editing truly is the 'nightmare' stage.
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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 05:21:32 pm »

I've yet to actually get past the "just write the darn thing" stage.  Very frustrating indeed :/

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Re: On Writing (or: I've e-published two books)
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 06:18:10 pm »

Thank you for your outline of the process of writing a book! To someone like me who knows a lot of aspiring writers and is considering himself marshaling the effort to hammer something out, this is an illuminating glimpse at the process.

So what does it feel like to have completed two books? Was the end result satisfying? Are you still waiting for more time to pass before you can decide? Would you say that this a fulfilling or profitable use of time, or that you might have preferred to do the things with short term payoffs?
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 08:34:55 pm »

So what does it feel like to have completed two books?
Great! I just wish I'd pushed my friends and family harder to read over my pieces. I ended up waiting on them for three months before I put my foot down and basically started issuing ultimatums.

When I say that your best editor is other people, I'm not kidding. I consider myself a pretty good editor, but when it comes to looking over your own work, it becomes massively more difficult to see any problems. Especially missing words, in my case - my brain just fills in the blank.

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Was the end result satisfying? Are you still waiting for more time to pass before you can decide? Would you say that this a fulfilling or profitable use of time, or that you might have preferred to do the things with short term payoffs?
Just being able to search for my name on Amazon and to see my two books pop up is definately satisfying. For the rest, it's hard to tell yet. Certainly, at least at this point, I'm doing it for the joy of writing or some such, because it's not even at 'booze money'-level yet (currently it's hovering somewhere around 'change in the couch'-level.)
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 08:46:25 am »

When I say that your best editor is other people, I'm not kidding. I consider myself a pretty good editor, but when it comes to looking over your own work, it becomes massively more difficult to see any problems. Especially missing words, in my case - my brain just fills in the blank.


I've found it's very helpful to read the whole book out loud when you're editing. Mostly people suggest this to avoid clunky dialogue, but it works wonders for the rest of it as well. Harder to skip I guess. There's also the 'read the sentences in reverse order' technique but that gets really frustrating really fast.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 12:15:52 am »

Hello everyone,

I'm bumping this topic back up to announce that I'm trying a new tack at making this self-publishing thing work.

From ~12:00am PDT today (in about three hours) till midnight, both of my books:
Entangled Realities and Fire and Other Short Stories will be available for FREE (for all of you who thought about reading my stuff, but decided the $4 price tag was just too much.)

What's the catch, you ask? Well, I'd really appreciate it if, once you've finished reading the book(s), if you could leave feedback. It doesn't have to be 5* "everything this man writes is gold!" I just want some honest reviews of my books, since I think it will help drive sales.
Or I hope it will, anyway.
Can't hurt.

In other news, I think all future books will not be taking advantage of the Amazon.com exclusive program. Sales outpaced borrows (the main reason to go exclusive) 10:1, so I think that I would have done just as well (if not better) releasing to all platforms (iTunes, etc.) at the same time.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 08:52:08 pm »

So awhile back I bought Entangled Realities, but I have yet to start reading it. :P I've been totally absorbed in the Song of Fire and Ice lately, but once I've finished them, I will read it and give what feedback I can. It look really interesting, looking forward to it.
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Re: On Writing (Commentary from the giveaway)
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 04:41:14 am »

So, the giveaway has finished.

I think it went extremely well:
In one day, I've 'sold' 10x more copies than I managed over the entire first month I had the books available.

Of course, on the other hand:
I didn't actually make any money from any of those sales (which is a shame.) Time will tell if these free copies translate into increased sales down the line.

As of this point, both titles still lack any reviews, but it's only been 24 hours so I'm still hoping that I get at least a couple - give people a chance to actually read the books before I start spouting hellfire and damnation  ;D.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 11:57:25 am »

After the decent success of last week, I've decided to hold another 24 hour giveaway of my books (Superbowl Sunday, now till ~3:00am):

Entangled Realities http://www.amazon.com/Entangled-Realities-ebook/dp/B00APSLB6Y
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Fire and Other Short Stories http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Other-Short-Stories-ebook/dp/B00AQ2S85Q

 I still don't have any reviews on Amazon, which makes me sad, since that's part of the entire reason for these giveaways. If you've read one of the books, please take the time to write a short review. Doesn't have to be 5* "This man is a golden god!" Just an honest review.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 06:14:17 pm »

I have them on my phone and will read them next. Unfortunately I'm currently reading the last three books of the Wheel of Time, so that might be a while.

I'll be sure to leave you a review when I do.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 09:56:32 pm »

I decided to check them out. I only have a Nook, though, so I'll have to read it on the computer.

Might be a week or so until I can get down to actually reading them. Keep us updated; I'll see this thread, feel guilty, and review it. :P


Actually, I ended up reading Entangled Realities in one sitting. I'll drop my suggestions to you here and leave a more consumer-based review on Amazon.

One big disclaimer: Any critique I give should be taken worth a grain of salt (Like you said in your post). I enjoyed the book quite a bit, so just take these as suggestions that may or may not be completely accurate. I'll be thorough so you can continue to grow as a writer - You've got lots of potential.


It's obvious this is your first work, but it's certainly not bad. Once you get past the first two chapters, it picked up its pace enough to hold my interest.

One of the major problems I had were logic breaks. The main character wakes up at 5 am, thinks about his nemesis in school, almost does dishes and leaves... And it's bright and sunny outside. It made me do a double take and read the section again to figure out if I missed something. It's particularly jarring during the space battle, when time shifts forward suddenly. There's a one instance of a spatial logic break as well, such as when the Gibraltar was hiding behind a moon (Which, if it’s like Earth’s moon, is a fairly large object) and almost instantaneously springs out from behind it to attack if you take the text literally.

If time passes, it's best to represent it in some fashion - Either through an explanation ("Max did homework until it was time to leave"), or declaring that time passed at some undetermined point (Instead of "It was bright and sunny out", try "By the time Max got outside, it was bright and sunny out. He paused, blinking, surprised so much time had passed"). If you want to have a transition from one moment to a couple hours later, it's best to have a break of some sort, such as a new chapter, or some extra space between transitions.

Spoiler: Like this. (click to show/hide)

Since formatting might be funky with different eReaders, you can even stick something between the transition paragraphs, like a bunch of dashes or something. I’m sure there are conventions out there, but I’m not aware of any.

Another thing you might try is having your character perform some task, with explanations and thoughts between. Going back to the scene where Max wakes up at 5:00 AM, you could have him get dressed, clean, or something to make time flow more naturally.

This isn't completely wasted space as long as it helps us get to know Max better - Does he pick a pair of used jeans up off the floor to wear? Is he gentle with the dishes, or does he noisily toss them around? Generally the task will be described shortly, since it's fairly mundane, but the reader will still glean a fair amount of Max's character from those short sentences. It also increases the size of the book, helping customers get a better sense of worth from buying it.

This also applies to conversations had between characters, and is a great way to improve both the quality of the dialogue and give depth of everyone involved. If you had done this with both dialogue and general character-showing actions, your book would have been much longer, adding value, and it would have also added a lot to all of the characters.


Near the beginning of the book, you tend to use a lot of adjectives in succession. This stops as you get deeper into the story, and it’s easy to see you getting into your groove as the book progresses.

Just remember that you don't want the reader tripping over overly descriptive sentences. That's half the trouble with being an author - You want to describe everything so the reader isn't confused, but add too much description and they can still become bored or confused. You don't do it much and it's easy to reread and understand when you do, but it's still something that warrants improvement. Try to remove unnecessary words, especially vague and non-descriptive ones that don't add very much.

For example, in Chapter 2: "The bridge of the Gibraltar was simply oozing with tension." Unless ‘simply’ is a continuation from some earlier argument, it's extraneous and unnecessary to the information being conveyed. If it sounds more epic without, go without - If it’s better with, try it with. You’ll have to play with your own sentences a bit to figure out what works and what doesn't.

The strongest example is probably the very first paragraph in the book, where you’re describing the valley; “...he could see the lush green grass yellow, and then turn brown...” is a little jarring until you realize that ‘yellow’ is used as a verb. In this case, it’d be more effective to describe where Max is standing as lush and then move down where it begins to yellow.

At other times your use of adjectives is perfect. I really enjoyed some of the phrasing you used on several occasions, so I know you've got the knack for it. You only need to practice to make it consistent.


Overall, it’s a good job for your first effort, only lacking in extensive polish. Keep up the good work!

If you need another editor or proofreader some time, I wouldn't mind helping out. I may not always have all the time that I do now, and I'm not the best at spotting subtle typos or mispellings, but just message me if you need me.


Here’s the review I’ll be posting on Amazon:

It's an enjoyable and quick read, and a worthy effort for a beginning writer. Despite a couple instances of odd wording and unexplained jumps in space and time in the first two chapters, Gesing hits several high notes that convinced me to read it all in one sitting (It's only about 40 pages long). It presents itself as a worthy semi-professional story, with an engaging climax and an ending that allows the imagination to guess at what happens after.

If you need a quick science fiction fix and don't mind a few minor road bumps, this a good read.
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