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[TheZoomZoll]

Oh huh. Well, I'm interested in your answer to that question too, because you've FoS'd me, and given nothing but vague questions that have a label of 'psychological' on them.

Also, seems like you just went around the question, not answering it and giving one back. How does that make sense?

What is the reason and purpose behind those? And why are you asking those kinds of questions at this moment?

Because if you are following the statement you have right there - second to last paragraph - I see nothing suspicious about my preference for being a peasant than a stoneworker. If you did see something suspicious there, why didn't you FoS me with your query on my lack of vote?

Does my vote matter muchly to you?

Why those kind of questions?Those were some random questions I made on-spot for the randomness of it.Looking back at it now kind of seems stupid and nonsensical but I made 3 or 4 people maybe even 5 suspect me just because I asked somebody what flavor of ice-cream they liked more.
That,is unintentionally ingenious I tell you.I bet nobody ever got accused of being part of the mafia just because he asked somebody during a questioning what flavor he liked more.That is funny indeed.

How does it make sense you ask?Well,I have already told him at least once that those questions were in no way "SUPER SRS BUSINESS" so why do it again if hes going to ask the same thing again?

If you already read to this part you know the answer to this one.

No need to ask you if you would prefer to vote for communism or democracy is there?Oh hey thats a good unintentional question as well!
Maybe you want to answer that for no reason as well?

I kinda wanted to see who people suspect so maybe.

[zombie urist]

Bah. Go play in a BM. 

[TheZoomZoll]

Bah. Go play in a BM. 

Thats all you have to say?
How about you get me lynched so the mafia will get a better chance?
Hmm?
Or do you think I am ze lying right now?

[Teneb]

Oh huh. Well, I'm interested in your answer to that question too, because you've FoS'd me, and given nothing but vague questions that have a label of 'psychological' on them.

Also, seems like you just went around the question, not answering it and giving one back. How does that make sense?

What is the reason and purpose behind those? And why are you asking those kinds of questions at this moment?

Because if you are following the statement you have right there - second to last paragraph - I see nothing suspicious about my preference for being a peasant than a stoneworker. If you did see something suspicious there, why didn't you FoS me with your query on my lack of vote?

Does my vote matter muchly to you?

Why those kind of questions?Those were some random questions I made on-spot for the randomness of it.Looking back at it now kind of seems stupid and nonsensical but I made 3 or 4 people maybe even 5 suspect me just because I asked somebody what flavor of ice-cream they liked more.
That,is unintentionally ingenious I tell you.I bet nobody ever got accused of being part of the mafia just because he asked somebody during a questioning what flavor he liked more.That is funny indeed.

How does it make sense you ask?Well,I have already told him at least once that those questions were in no way "SUPER SRS BUSINESS" so why do it again if hes going to ask the same thing again?

If you already read to this part you know the answer to this one.

No need to ask you if you would prefer to vote for communism or democracy is there?Oh hey thats a good unintentional question as well!
Maybe you want to answer that for no reason as well?

I kinda wanted to see who people suspect so maybe.

This is the most idiotic post I've seen in a Mafia game.

Your questions are irrelevant to the game, and you yourself said they were random or meant to confuse people. You are not trying to find scum, you are not trying to find masons, you are not trying to do anything other than shit around and disrupt the game. You are the worst player I've seen and will ever see.

Before you mock us REAL players again by saying that "SUPER SRS BUSINESS" shitpile of yours, know that a game of mafia should indeed be treated as serious business.

How about you get me lynched so the mafia will get a better chance?
Hmm?
Or do you think I am ze lying right now?

If you are lying or not, it matter little. You are a stain on this game, TZZ, and it will be better off without you.

NQT: Stop buddying. Because calling any player a good man after his death is just that, post-mortem buddying.

Obolisk: reasons, ye lurker.

[TheZoomZoll]

This is the most idiotic post I've seen in a Mafia game.

Your questions are irrelevant to the game, and you yourself said they were random or meant to confuse people. You are not trying to find scum, you are not trying to find masons, you are not trying to do anything other than shit around and disrupt the game. You are the worst player I've seen and will ever see.

Before you mock us REAL players again by saying that "SUPER SRS BUSINESS" shitpile of yours, know that a game of mafia should indeed be treated as serious business.
If you are lying or not, it matter little. You are a stain on this game, TZZ, and it will be better off without you.

Thanks!Glad I could make it.I will have gifs and PNG's of the story.Gimme a sec for them.

Thanks again!
I've made a quick picture as fast as I could to represent this real players thing.

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If I am a stain are you part of

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If so I am really sorry to have "stain"-ed your high league no fun super elite ranked game.NOT

[notquitethere]

ZombieUrist

If you clearly showed he was town, then he wouldn't have been lynched.

I beg to differ. What I say in the way of rational observation is consistently ignored. Once they got the blood lust for Captain Ford and convinced themselves that he was scum despite the ample evidence I offered to the contrary, I was powerless to stop the mob. Most players aren't interested in looking at anything concrete and measurable like voting patterns, but only nebulous scum tells and this way of thinking is letting the scum team win.

Deathsword

Stop buddying. Because calling any player a good man after his death is just that, post-mortem buddying.

This is a fine way of diverting attention from the fact that you helped lynch a town member, a town member that was obviously town. Despite rational reasons to the contrary you continued your bizarre vendetta. I don't give a monkey's if I look like I'm buddying to you: the only 'scum tell' worth caring about is letting scum win and lynching townies lets scum win. You are letting scum win, Deathsword.

TheZoomZoll
I can empathise with feeling that your fellow players are taking things 'too seriously'. But you've got to understand that the players of this game don't want a casual game. They enjoy arguments and counterarguments, and getting drawn into an atmosphere of intense paranoia. Your whimsical approach will be appreciated in more casual games (perhaps on the mafiascum site?) and, of course, in community games of dwarf fortress. As it stands, you're disrupting the other players' ability to play the game effectively by monopolising their energy in talking about you, a player uninterested in the norms of play, and not in hunting scum.

[notquitethere]

Vote Analysis
So another town member was hung. Unlike with TolyK's lynch, we can get some positive information from this one. We know that both TolyK and Ford were innocent and we know that scum will have known that. Scum have an incentive to lynch people the normal way as their assassinating power is so underpowered. Thus, we can suppose that at least one if not both of the remaining scum tried to lynch Tolyk or Ford in the first vote and Ford in the second.

Here's everyone that voted Ford the first time:

- Dariush
- Deathsword
- Tiruin

Here's everyone that voted for TolyK the first time:

- notquitethere
- Toaster
- Captain Ford

Here's everyone that voted for Ford's successful lynch:

- Toaster
- Dariush
- Deathsword
- TheZoomZoll
- Tiruin*


These are the common denominators:

- Dariush
- Deathsword
- Tiruin
- Toaster

Now masons among you may be able to rule out any fellow masons from this list. Whoever's left is likely to be scum. This obviously isn't iron tight: there's nothing stopping scum from lurking or deliberately acting irrationally, and at the end of the day, at least half this list is definitely innocent. But, I think it's the best thing that we have to go on right now.


My vote for ZZ stands until he withdraws from the game or starts playing properly (or, if one of the four I've just listed gives me additional reason to suspect them).


*I include Tiruin because, although he withdrew his vote, if he was scum he'd have good reason to suppose Ford was doomed by that point any way.

[Leafsnail]

I wouldn't normally intervene, but please try to avoid acting overly cliquey or offensive.  The point of the game is to have fun, and one of the reason it's fun is you get to attack people and have arguments within the confines of the game without making it into actual drama.

[notquitethere]

That's a totally fair point and I apologise unreservedly if I came across as a jerk. It's good to have players and I'd much rather have ZZ play than the position go empty.

[TheZoomZoll]

That's a totally fair point and I apologise unreservedly if I came across as a jerk. It's good to have players and I'd much rather have ZZ play than the position go empty.

Yep.Sorry If I offended any Starcraft 2 players.

[Hapah]

I'll try to get a post in today, but no promises. I've still gots the fever.

[Hapah]

No posts? C'mon guys, I'm sick and I made a post!

Toaster: You finished that reread yet? What are you thoughts?

NQT: How much weight do you put on that list?

obolisk: You've got to give more than "I think he's scum". Why do you think he's scum?

[Toaster]

I'm having some serious trouble getting in to this.

[zombie urist]

Me too. 

[Tiruin]

Request Replacement

University calls, I've to answer.

Too little time to give at the moment with all the work going around...Especially sorry given that, in comparison with Hapah, I've not been able to get anything much except vote analyses (that bit on me strikethrough-ing without giving a read was meant to be null), TZZ appears to be trolling more than playing a Mafia player (or in the very least, unhelpful newbie town because if he was scum, then my outlook on him as a player will have reached its nadir due to his antics. Not a mason though, given how he...err, responds to anyone, although that may be just me looking at his words there.)