UnvoteToasterI feel like I had valid cases against them and that my actions were justified. How about you? You were voting TolyK D1 right alongside me.
That's right, I voted Tolyk: but, it should be stressed, I didn't anticipate that my vote (or yours for that matter) would specifically get TolyK lynched. It was more that you voted for two innocents in succession that raised my attention. We can both agree that TolyK looked a bit sketchy at the time. Ford though, for reasons I've gone over a bunch of times, Ford was so much more likely to be Town than anything else. I think some of you voted him just because other people had voted him and an aura of guilt had arisen through association.
That's all done now. Let's talk about newer revelations. What do you think about Tiruin's purported mason claims?
HapahNQT: Toaster has a point, you both did more or less policy lynch Tolyk D1. D2 is a different beast, though. And I'd watch reading too much into the D1 votes: since both parties that were on the chopping block ended up being town, scum really could have placed their vote anywhere D1.
Yeah, you've got a good point. Hence why I specifically argued after D1 that there wasn't much that could be read at the time. However, the combination of D1 and D2 votes is telling, I think. Sure, scum could have voted wherever on either day. But, if we accept that it's plausible that scum had an incentive to bandwagon both days, then from the shortlist of people that lynched on both days, we've got a list of people that are more likely to be scum than other players.
But if you think that we should only be looking at D2, then the only player I omitted was the slightly suspect ZoomZoll.
Question: do you think Tiruin's revelation will help the town team. Is he telling the truth? (If you think telling me whether Tiruin's telling the truth will damage team town, then feel free to ignore this question.)
Dariush~Vote analysis and sass~
This is unbelievably stupid. Not only because you completely disregard the possibility that your scumbuddy obolisk scum may be lurking their asses off (which is, oh, the only reason lurkers are lynched) or the fact that you hold to the widely disproven theory that scum must necessarily be behind each and every town lynch there is and behind 90% of scum lynches, but also because you quite niftily strike yourself from the 'common denominator' list despite fitting there exactly as much as four people you've FoSed for no reason whatsoever.
An admirable effort to imitate activity, but mass-FoSing isn't exactly as useful neither to town nor to scum as you imagine it to be.
Oh
Dariush! You wound me so! Naturally, you're not going to like my sharp analysis when it finds you in the crosshairs!
Of course scum could be lurkers and
of course scum probably aren't behind every lynch. I was merely arguing that this is the
best damn lead we've got. My 'mass-FOSing' is merely drawing up a short-list of potential scum. How is that not helpful to town? Pointing fingers at random will lose us this game.
Here's a question: do you think Tiruin's revelation is good for team town? Best case, they are masons and scum won't lynch (afraid it's a ruse) and town won't lynch (afraid it's true). Worst case, the opposite. What are your thoughts?
TiruinMasons: Me, Hapah, DS, TolyK.
This is a
suicidal bold move. How do you think this helps team town?
So the FoS, and not a vote? On your analysis, how are you able to specify and direct a plausible case on one of those persons? What did you glean by the vote analysis there?
Well, I can't vote
everyone. My vote analysis gives us a shortlist of potential targets. That's all. We've still got to go further and press a case against suspicious individuals. (Which I've been doing.)
Let's say we take your revelation at face value, then the remaining suspects are Dariush and Toaster. They could be the scum team. ZZ could still yet be scum: he bandwagonned Ford and it's hard to get a read on his role's early play because Edos' activity dropped off the map.
ZoomZollNot quite there managed to call 2 masons as suspects which is weird.
Not that strange. First, we don't know if Tiruin's claim is legit. Assuming it is, we'd expect masons to block vote, so it comes as no surprise to me. At least half the suspects in my list have to be non-scum so this should be expected.
Dariush seems to be getting more mad by the lynch. He seemed angry because of the townie lynch.Anybody else notice that?
Mounting evidence suggests Dariush is always mad. It's his default register.
As to my suspicions: Toaster has responded reasonably. Dariush has responded Dariushly. You, though, you jumped on Ford and have been deliberately antagonistic. Is that scum behaviour?
OboAre you alive?
ZUI'm not going to lie, I'm reading you as pretty town right now based on the voting patterns. But Ford was
adamant you were scum. I'd like to see a more substantial response from you about the current game state.
DSWho do you suspect most? Still ZZ? What about the putative case I've laid against Toaster and Dariush?
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