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[Suds Zimmerman]

marital trance

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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sorry, couldn't resist

Small update: I'm gonna get to work updating the raws for DFHack, particularly for the autosyndrome feature - solve the problem of children and dogs being turned en masse into heavy machine gunners. Remember to keep me posted on any bugs you encounter. Maybe this time around I won't take half a year to get to them.

[Suds Zimmerman]

New update on pending changes.
For 1.5.2, alongside DFHack compatibility, I want to add each of the Necromundan Houses as plug-ins, each with separate creature and civ entries as well as graphics. So if you want to play Delaque, Escher, Goliath, Van Saar and Cawdor you'll be able to do that and get thematic benefits and penalties for that. Now, I've got a pretty good handle on what I want to do for most of the Houses as far as mechanical stuff goes: Orlock (which will continue to be the default house) will get a significant bonus to mining skill gain as well as a small bonus to smelting efficiency. Escher will get a bonus to agility and to melee skills for females and an across-the-board penalty on everything for males as well as a lower population ratio (due to a genetic abnormality). Goliath will get significant bonuses to strength and toughness for males but females will get reduced skill gain rate for selected skills (in this case, to represent regressive cultural practices rather than genetic abnormalities.) Cawdor will be friendly with Redemptionists and hostile to Ratskins, and will be able to outfit their gangers with powerful flamethrowers (in the form of a fairly long-lasting transformation.) Van Saar will get a relatively minor but still significant boost to skill gain for all industrial/crafting skills.

Now, the main problem is that I'm unsure of what to give the Delaques. They'll be getting cave adaptation for sure, to represent their sensitivity to light, but I'm not sure what bonuses to give them. In the fluff, they're all about spycraft and information brokering, but I'm not sure how to translate this to DF. Any help whatsoever with this will be greatly appreciated. Additionally, the reason I want to do them as plug-ins and not have all the Houses in-game simultaneously as separate civs is because I'm concerned about players getting swamped by caravans/sieges/ambushes. If anyone knows of a method to have all the civs in-game whilst avoiding that, I would appreciate having that information passed on.

In addition to all of that, each of the Houses will have separate wardrobes and armouries and available trade goods where appropriate (Goliaths getting access to large two-handed weapons, Cawdor getting flamer fuel from caravans, etc.) Furthermore, there will be a new Rival Ganger civ dependent on which House you choose, who will bother you with everything from theft to sieges. (It's gonna be Orlock vs. Delaque, Goliath vs. Escher and Cawdor vs. Van Saar as the odd ones out.) As always, please keep me current to any of your thoughts, concerns and wishes for the mod.

[Imperial Guardsman]

Add a new good only seed * Serene, Mirthful, and Joyous Wilds * for the carebears, will ya?

[Tias]

I still can't find the enormous rock drum. Will 'build rock instrument' and hope it becomes a drum yield one?

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Be that as it may, there is no 'rock drum' on my list, only rock instrument.

[Suds Zimmerman]

I still can't find the enormous rock drum. Will 'build rock instrument' and hope it becomes a drum yield one?

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Be that as it may, there is no 'rock drum' on my list, only rock instrument.

Then you must likely installed the mod improperly, since everything is working fine on my end.

[chalicier]

Apologies for my absence, everyone, I've been working on my own games. I'm loving the new updates, SZ!

[Atelerd]

Is there any way to speed up shooting?
I'm playing as adventurer and I'm upset about it's rate of fire - because there is ~7 turns for one shot, and for these time enemies would tear you to pieces.
Once I saw birst fire, but I can't figure out how to switch to it.

[Putnam]

No, not really, and burst fire? ._.

[Atelerd]

Three rounds in the one attack. Maybe I've seen it in the dream, heh.
Maybe i can speed it up by changing raw files or something?

[Putnam]

That's what I mean when I say "no, not really"

[Atelerd]

Dammit. That makes guns in adventure mode totally useless.

[Suds Zimmerman]

Three rounds in the one attack. Maybe I've seen it in the dream, heh.
Maybe i can speed it up by changing raw files or something?

If that were possible I'd have already done it. The only very slim possibility is through some sort of DFhack witchery. My fondest DF wish is for ranged weapons to get their own individual speed tokens when Toady releases the new combat update. We'd still have the little guys dropping in individual cartridges each time they fire, but it'd be a hell of a lot better than nothing.

As it stands, guns aren't that bad if you give yourself a really high skill and avoid close encounters. It's the only viable way to have it enjoyable with everything being as it is. I've actually had some pretty tense gun battles in adventure mode. Town catacombs are great for that. And, of course, if guns get any better, melee weapons will become useless (unless you have insane dodging skill or carapace armour.)

On the topic of DFHack, does anyone know the proper commands for autosyndrome syndromes? Are they the ones here or the ones here? I'm gonna try both if I have to but I'd rather save some time, if anyone knows.

1.5.2 is nearly done. All the graphics are finished; the ones I'm least satisfied with are the Eschers and the Goliaths but everything else is good enough for me. All I have to do now is set up everything for DFHack.

[TastyMints]

On the topic of burst fire and ranged weapons, somehow I get the feeling we will see a set of raws for ranged weapons that will include material types, speed tokens, temperatures, physical states, etc. The modding community is extremely important to Toady and he has always facilitated all kinds of fun and interesting things when the time came. With the current and future overhaul of melee combat, I don't think I would be stepping out of line or being too presumptuous if I were to say that ranged combat will likely get the same treatment.

Remember, combat still has a long way to go, and the idea of fighting styles with their own raws has been commented on many times. I also happen to recall reading in DFtalk that the ability to breath clouds of items was also added in this release, but currently does not assign any mass or attributes to said items that could cause harm. All in good time.

P.S. Looking forward to 1.5.2 I'm just about ready to start a new settlement.

P.P.S. I would have to disagree on the sentiment of guns making melee weapons useless or redundant. In an Underhive, the firearm catalog can range anywhere from black powder weapons to Storm Bolters, which are essentially guns that fire grenade sized exploding jet propelled bullets at the potential maximum of 360 rounds per minute per barrel (720 rounds per minute for said Storm Bolter.) It would be somewhat silly to assume that even the equivalent of a modern assault rifle would be common amongst UnderHivers. Most of the more advanced technology that mankind has in its possession are made and maintained from blueprints created before or during the Dark Age of Technology. A settlement that could manufacture such weapons in the Underhive itself would surely deserve to wield them against their enemies, and they must be suitably difficult to mass produce. Assuming these things, melee weapons are definitely not rendered useless.

[Suds Zimmerman]

On the topic of burst fire and ranged weapons, somehow I get the feeling we will see a set of raws for ranged weapons that will include material types, speed tokens, temperatures, physical states, etc. The modding community is extremely important to Toady and he has always facilitated all kinds of fun and interesting things when the time came. With the current and future overhaul of melee combat, I don't think I would be stepping out of line or being too presumptuous if I were to say that ranged combat will likely get the same treatment.

Remember, combat still has a long way to go, and the idea of fighting styles with their own raws has been commented on many times. I also happen to recall reading in DFtalk that the ability to breath clouds of items was also added in this release, but currently does not assign any mass or attributes to said items that could cause harm. All in good time.

P.S. Looking forward to 1.5.2 I'm just about ready to start a new settlement.

P.P.S. I would have to disagree on the sentiment of guns making melee weapons useless or redundant. In an Underhive, the firearm catalog can range anywhere from black powder weapons to Storm Bolters, which are essentially guns that fire grenade sized exploding jet propelled bullets at the potential maximum of 360 rounds per minute per barrel (720 rounds per minute for said Storm Bolter.) It would be somewhat silly to assume that even the equivalent of a modern assault rifle would be common amongst UnderHivers. Most of the more advanced technology that mankind has in its possession are made and maintained from blueprints created before or during the Dark Age of Technology. A settlement that could manufacture such weapons in the Underhive itself would surely deserve to wield them against their enemies, and they must be suitably difficult to mass produce. Assuming these things, melee weapons are definitely not rendered useless.

I meant useless in adventure mode, you silly goose. No sense in bringing a sword when Redemptionist Butthole #358 can put a bullet in your skull as soon as he spots you. Though I guess it's a good thing none of the civs are packing boltguns.

I'm really excited for the combat update even if we don't get improved ranged weapon moddability. Separating attack and movement speed is gonna be a godsend whatever happens. And the brawls look fun.

[Putnam]

Three rounds in the one attack. Maybe I've seen it in the dream, heh.
Maybe i can speed it up by changing raw files or something?

If that were possible I'd have already done it. The only very slim possibility is through some sort of DFhack witchery. My fondest DF wish is for ranged weapons to get their own individual speed tokens when Toady releases the new combat update. We'd still have the little guys dropping in individual cartridges each time they fire, but it'd be a hell of a lot better than nothing.

As it stands, guns aren't that bad if you give yourself a really high skill and avoid close encounters. It's the only viable way to have it enjoyable with everything being as it is. I've actually had some pretty tense gun battles in adventure mode. Town catacombs are great for that. And, of course, if guns get any better, melee weapons will become useless (unless you have insane dodging skill or carapace armour.)

On the topic of DFHack, does anyone know the proper commands for autosyndrome syndromes? Are they the ones here or the ones here? I'm gonna try both if I have to but I'd rather save some time, if anyone knows.

1.5.2 is nearly done. All the graphics are finished; the ones I'm least satisfied with are the Eschers and the Goliaths but everything else is good enough for me. All I have to do now is set up everything for DFHack.

You might notice that they're both the same...