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[LoSboccacc]

because they give you a fixed amount of mana; later on when cities holds temple and cathedral and whatever, each providing mana and research, raw mana from nodes is less relevant (in percentage)

I was attacking war bear because maybe a lucky psionic blast could have killed one, but nodes counter magic makes that difficult.

Also because I used that to introduce the combat system

unit usually have one hit, per figure. monster and mounted unit may have more, many more.

[RedKing]

Nostalgia abounds. I played the hell out of some MoM when it came out. I *still* play it from time to time.

One of the more interesting games I ever had was taking almost no spellbooks and taking a ton of traits (think I had Warlord, Myrran, Artificer and a couple of others). My admantine-clad dwarven army was a thing of beauty. Especially led by Demi-God status heroes with custom-made artifacts.

Of the regular races, I tended to prefer nomads, because SO MUCH GOLD. Plus griffon riders. OTOH, humans get paladins.

[LoSboccacc]

Well at any rate you can make eldritch flying invisible bowmans and that alone win sieges.

Substitute bowman with warship for maximum sillines.

[Kolbur]

Yes! Love this game!

I always summon a magic spirit at start for scouting. It usually pays back itself by finding empty sites with some gold and/or mana in it (move on sites but don't enter if monsters live there, it can cross oceans too).
Also always remember that gold = 1/2 mana via alchemy (or gold = mana with alchemist trait). Ideally you want to pay all your mana expenses with gold. This way you can pump your entire magic power into research and skill increase. Magic power (obtained from the your mage fortress, magic nodes, temples, terrain specials and some races' population) is the only source for increasing the casting skill so it's always important.

Can you post your mirror information (Info -> Mirror)?

[LoSboccacc]

sure, I have the updates to be finished then I'll post a mirror. (I got offline too much and have still about 50 pics to post, the actual update series was intended to end with a mirror and I already got the picture.  )

Spoiler: against war bears (click to show/hide)

the new gnomish settlement allow to train strong low level units, they are strong enough to tackle on that war bears, with some support...

I researched enchant item, to give some more punch to our heroes..


sadly we can't quite afford yet what I had in mind for the wizard:


since it looks like we're going toward a strong army (since we have few precious offensive spells right now), while I train gnoll swordsmen I'll also expand our food production. According to our surveyor, this place has great potential for a city, despite the danger of the nearby ruins and tower:



now, we can also increment our capital food production, we don't have money problem so we can build some more stuff, like:


and since we have some gold but gold is never enough, our engineers will start building a network of roads between our cities:


since training some swordmen in the small gnoll outpust will take a while, I'll send some chivalry from the capital to the west unexplored territories:

notice the road build in the meanwhile, we're halfway toward the first city!

some raider were intercepted by our chivalry, before they could come in and cause trouble:

(in the upper left angle!)

just a couple of gnolls, dispatched by phantom warriors before they could even reach the chivalry.

A little more exploration and their outpost is found and conquered by phantom warriors:

I just let the horsemen finish them for the experience



but there is no time for that! notice the army of gnolls on south est: they're marching to the war bears.
I'll leave the horsemen up there to intercept potential raiders; but now it is time to conquer the other nature node!

Spoiler: on outpost (click to show/hide)

settlers doesn't create a city ready to be a productive part of the empire. population must grow enough to become a true settlement; meanwhile the outpost is useless to the empire. The population growth bonus applies, so I expect this outpost to grow quickly.

[Puzzlemaker]

I got this game on GoG because of this thread.  I am on an island with no way off, it's so sad.

Also pixies.  Holy shit they keep kicking my ass.  I am pretty sure I am doing it wrong.

[LoSboccacc]

there are many spell to get you off an island. floating island is one quite common, also flight spell or nagas could be used to get a foothold on other islands. or ships, but that would be the easy route, won't it?

Spoiler: an hero and its destiny (click to show/hide)

we left gnolls waling north to meet the war bears i battle on the field.

back in the capital I use some money to kickstart a project of mine...

the cathedral priests will not be used to cure the gnolls (which have one heart anyway so they are either healthy or dead)
and won't be used to cure Zaldron the Sage which is a wizard anyway,
but as heavy ranged unit.

since the capital is starting to hold some important and costly building, I'll start to build some walls as well


on the road to the node, a hero join our path, in search of fame and glory.
"Do you have fame and glory, sir?"
"We have war bears"
He look bemused by our offer:


and with our new army, strong of an heroes, two priest and many gnoll swordsmen we can exact revenge on the poor bears


the battle was censored to protect the younger audience. a maximized bolt passed the node magic protection and reduced a bear to a smoking pulp, while the priest minced the other pair. A gnoll swordsman unit died valiantly saving the life of Gunthar



and another node became possessed by our spirit.


you can also see from this picture that the fallen gnol had been replaced by two horsemen, so priest can actually be useful at healing.

time to return our attention westward!

[Puzzlemaker]

Maybe it's because I put all my points into death magic.  Hmm.

[LoSboccacc]

Spoiler: there and back again (click to show/hide)

we left our scout on the west part of the island; this actually happened at the same time of the war bears arc but I didn't want to mess up the story too much, I take enough diversion as it is

the chavalry unit went westward, discovering some more ruins, a node and a lair;
then, suddenly, it happened:

mithril! praise the minerscout!

now I could be sensible and start a proper mining town with miners guild and all the necessary operations,
but I got stupid and wanted to see the effect on mithril on gnoll swordsmen

...except gnoll can't make magic weaponry so I'm kinda stuck with them now.


The army has moved to take the node just south east of the mithril patch, but stopped by to clear the lair...

you can see that my strategy as cemented on spamming phantom warriors 
they're so cheap!

the node is a repetition of war bears:

Spoiler: the empire of solitude (click to show/hide)

the scout reports that the island is almost clear from end to end, bar a couple ruins;

north east, the capital, with its nodes and lavish nature:


center, a gnoll city north and two cities, one at south end near the ivory plains, surrounded by ruins and a looming tower; one at the mid end bridge of the empire of solitude:


on the west side, two gnollish cities north and south, with mithril and another looming tower.


we can now start expanding outside of our island:

Spoiler: looking in the myrror? (click to show/hide)

with the island almost clear and an army on the road, why not peek into one of those towers?


spirits survey this one.
LOT of spirits:

and I only brought the scout, the army was actually going to the OTHER tower 

they aren't really impressed by phantom warriors, but every impedement I can get them is one turn more of life from the scout, which can outrun them ghosts while I try to spam evocations:


after a while, I manage to put them all to rest:



and with the tower cleared, we haev a safe passage to myrror....

are you ready to look at the myrror?

Spoiler: on towers (click to show/hide)

the game has two plane of existence, arcanus and myrror;
arcanus hold 'standard' races, easy dungeons and nodes and two AI players.
myrror is more dangerous, nodes doesn't have war bears but phantom beast and lairs doesn't have fire sprites, they have demon lords... but nodes give twice the mana and all races here are more powerful one way or the other.
each world has it's own map; the towers act as portal and as anchor between the two planes. any unit on a tower can switch plane and will come out on the other plane in the same relative position; each tower has a corresponding one on the other plane.

[Kolbur]

Maybe it's because I put all my points into death magic.  Hmm.

If you have 11 death books you can summon Wraiths from the start. They can fly, are immune to non-magic weapons and obliterate almost all regular units easily with life draining attacks that raise them after combat as undead units for you without any upkeep.
You did pick them at start, right? 

Alternatively you can summon Shadow Demons. Flying non-magic weapon immune regenerating undeads with a magic ranged attack that can plane shift at will.

[IronyOwl]

Uh. So, what's that mithril going to do with gnolls on it? And can one demolish their own towns?

[LoSboccacc]

I think I can by producing enough settlers.

I'll give that a try this evening.

[Delta Foxtrot]

PTW. My favourite race is probably the barbarians. Highest population growth coupled with strong normal units and early access to berserkers is just too good to pass. Their only problem is stunted tech tree, but that's why you mass up on 'zerkers early on and conquer some high men for late game tech.

I got this game on GoG because of this thread.  I am on an island with no way off, it's so sad.

Also pixies.  Holy shit they keep kicking my ass.  I am pretty sure I am doing it wrong.

It might help if you start with the largest possible land mass. It's been a while since I read the manual, but I think it says that the set-up phase landmass determines the water-to-land ratio. I always play with the largest possible, and I always get two or three large continents and little else. The few times that I've tried with smaller land sizes has always made me start on a small-ish island.

Also pixies are Death Incarnate with little fluttery wings.

[Neonivek]

Much later in the game I find that you will end up getting rid of your heros in favor of the super heros.

The difference between a minor and major hero is just immense >_<

I thought the Abandonia review (I own a real copy) was exagerating that heros end up too powerful... but nope

[LoSboccacc]

Spoiler: about the gnoll city (click to show/hide)

it still had only few people


so I ordered them to pack up and leave


and I also paid them to quicken the process


in another city, I spent some money to bribe constructors in finishing up earlier, safety be damned...

...to have a slot free to set up a human settlers caravan:


and the next turn

mission accomplished!


..what could I possibly do with this stack and some settlers?

conquer Myrror, of course!

but suddenly


Sss'ra, taking advantage of the now emptied tower, emerged from Myrror right on top of us!


this means his territory already extend to cover the area of Myrror I intended to invade. Bad news, since we're lagging a lot behind in term of magic and physical power, according to our astrologer:

I call the help of the public! What should we do now about that?