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[10ebbor10]

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I'd just like to put in my possibly incompetent two-cents by saying that Japan has 127,817,277 people, Britain has 62,641,000 people, Israel has 7,765,700 people, and the US blows these numbers away at 311,591,917 people (google "population of *nation*" for these numbers). These lower numbers of people will generally mean less people gathered in places like large cities, which would lower violence in general. The violence rate will be lower if you have less people, to put it in a short way. There's an impossibly large number of variables from every aspect of society to deal with when thinking about why violence like this happens.

Point of information, all three are highly industrialized countries with the majority of its peoples situated in its cities. There's a lot more factors than population density in crime.
Also a great deal of the world's gun black market comes from America D:<

Also in case it has not been posted before...

In fact, the average population density in the US is much lower than in the two other countries.

Even if we look at the individual states, and let us compare it to Belgium, we find that the crime rate is mostly confined to the Southern States, rather than the densely populated states in the North. (New York, W DC). Aside from Rhode Island and New Jersey, all these states have a lower population density than Belgium, and both have low violent crime ratings.

I think poverty is a better guideline for crime than population density. Especially because most crime statistics are in numbers per X inhabitants.


((Unrelated, but I just found out there's such a thing as the Belgian Mafia))

[Owlbread]

What kind of gun control do you think is necessary here? The massacre was committed, apparently, using two handguns - just like Dunblane. The killer's semi automatic rifle was still in the car.

[10ebbor10]

Dunno, haven't been following the event. Gun control laws are mostly only good for stopping spontanous / emotional guncrimes. Any people with enough money and decent planning can probably procure the weaponry he needs.

[Owlbread]

Dunno, haven't been following the event. Gun control laws are mostly only good for stopping spontanous / emotional guncrimes. Any people with enough money and decent planning can probably procure the weaponry he needs.

Which is exactly what James Eagan Holmes did.

[darkrider2]

inb4 thread lock.

[Leafsnail]

Of course the Gun control people don't, because the world shouldn't have guns, so if we make them illegal, they'll go away right? Just like murder?

Have you realized that your argument implies we should legalize murder?

inb4 thread lock.

Wow this post sure is funny and helpful

[Urist_McDrowner]

Have you realized that your argument implies we should legalize murder?

Murder of itself is a bad thing. So, legalizing it would allow otherwise law-abiding citizens to murder. Owning a gun itself is not a bad thing, and in fact, there are over 2 million uses of guns in self defense according to Gary Kleck, Professor in the School of Criminology and Criminial Justice at Florida State.

[Neonivek]

there are over 2 million uses of guns in self defense

Like shooting someone in the head, shooting someone in the brain, and shooting someone in the spine, and shooting someone's grandmother to cause them psychological trauma to make them back off.

[werty892]

Yes, I know what I'm gonna say is douchebaggy. YES, I live in the USA. Yes, this is horrific. But... Really? Why is it always about guns guns guns, when guns are only the instrument of people murder... Its really sad to see people constantly saying "This was caused by our lack of gun control" I myself own guns, and just because I have them I don't have a sudden urge to go kill people. Its the person who is the problem, not the guns.

[Urist_McDrowner]

By the way, how well IS heavily restricting guns and bombs working in Norway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Oh, right. With gun control, without gun control, bad stuff like this happens. We need to find a different way of mitigating it.

[Leafsnail]

Its the person who is the problem, not the guns.

It's both.  Not sure why everyone keeps acting like it has to be either the person or the machine designed to allow that person to kill people as efficiently as possible that's at fault.

By the way, how well IS banning guns and bombs working in Norway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Oh, right.

Fuck you.

[Darvi]

By the way, how well IS banning guns and bombs working in Norway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Oh, right.

Fuck you.

FTFY

[Urist_McDrowner]

Again. What gun control law would have stopped this guy? He had no criminal record, so there goes background checks. Demand costly mental evaluations that wouldn't have caught Anders Breivik? What do you do?

[Neonivek]

It is also both in the sense that giving people the ability to kill on a massive scale with little-nothing to stop them means that anytime a person breaks the system available supports their ability to go on this kind of rampage.

In a similar way that a system that made tanks cheap, affordable, and legal (and fully armed) would see issues with tanks commiting rampage crimes.

Does the US right now have Tank rampages? yes in fact!

[Urist_McDrowner]

It is also both in the sense that giving people the ability to kill on a massive scale with little-nothing to stop them means that anytime a person breaks the system available supports their ability to go on this kind of rampage.

In a similar way that a system that made tanks cheap, affordable, and legal (and fully armed) would see issues with tanks commiting rampage crimes.

Does the US right now have Tank rampages? yes in fact!

You know tanks are legal now, right? I think you've just discredited your own point.