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[MetalSlimeHunt]

As far as I know, in most states you can purchase body armor without so much as an ID.

[Neonivek]

Everyday the cartoons with schools that have watch towers with turrets is starting to seem less and less like a joke.

As far as I know, in most states you can purchase body armor without so much as an ID.

Very odd.

[misko27]

Google says no. It also says I can get a Bullet-proof notepad for 50 dollars.
 
Prices seems fairly expensive though. 40 dollars for neck-armor alone. Wasn't the Aurora Guy also Wearing armor? Where do these peopel get the money for all this crap.

[RedKing]

If there's a second shooter, it is very much within the realm of possibility that the first shooter was killed by them.

Interesting theory. Haven't seen anything to suggest it, which makes me think the two were working together. but I suppose it is a possibility.

And no, ballistic armor is not illegal in the US. It ain't cheap, but a few hundred dollars can get you a decent torso vest. Possession in the US is generally outlawed to anyone with a felony record. And in some states you're automatically denied parole if you commit certain crimes while wearing body armor. And (laughably), some states have passed laws outlawing the wearing of body armor while committing certain violent crimes.

"Oh damn man, I was going to rob that bank with some sweet armor, but that would be illegal." (Yes, I know it's so they can press additional charges. It's still fucking ludicrous.)

EDIT: In fact, per Wikipedia, Australia is about the only major place that seriously restricts body armor. (presumably, they were worried that the native wildlife would evolve to overcome ballistic plate protection)

[Neonivek]

Full Body armor made to protect you from Civilian grade weaponry is expencive but not so expencive that anyone who saves couldn't but it.

My Computer probably costs more then full body armor.

[kilakan]

Everyday the cartoons with schools that have watch towers with turrets is starting to seem less and less like a joke.

As far as I know, in most states you can purchase body armor without so much as an ID.

Very odd.

It's a sad sad day for humanity when arming everyday people that work in public, or government places is a viable recourse.  Though... hiring/training one or two trusted individuals for each school or mall or whatever might not be a terrible idea...  Teach the principle to use some type of armor piercing rifle could end up saving a lot of peoples lives if the world we live in continuously gets more and more violent.  The police just can't respond in time anymore.

[Neonivek]

Some people believe that the best course of action to decrease both the number of shootings but also the severity of shootings is to actually enforce a law that requires everyone 21 years old or higher to have a clearly visable firearm at all times and making concealed weaponry illegal.

I don't believe this myself but my curious side really would like to know what actually happens in this scenario.

[kaijyuu]

I don't think an arms race is the proper recourse.

[misko27]

Everyday the cartoons with schools that have watch towers with turrets is starting to seem less and less like a joke.

As far as I know, in most states you can purchase body armor without so much as an ID.

Very odd.

It's a sad sad day for humanity when arming everyday people that work in public, or government places is a viable recourse.  Though... hiring/training one or two trusted individuals for each school or mall or whatever might not be a terrible idea...  Teach the principle to use some type of armor piercing rifle could end up saving a lot of peoples lives if the world we live in continuously gets more and more violent.  The police just can't respond in time anymore.

Yes, because the solution is clearly to give MORE people guns. Especially principals. What if the armor-piercing guy snaps?

[DrPoo]

I kinda hope a shooting happens at a NRA convention so those fucks learn it the hard way.
Lobbyism should be punishable by death.

[misko27]

I kinda hope a shooting happens at a NRA convention so those fucks learn it the hard way.
Lobbyism should be punishable by death.

I unfortunately have had this same thought.

[RedKing]

The principal probably couldn't have responded in time either, and without some rather significant training would be as much of a danger to himself and others as the gunman. Do you really want a scared shitless bureaucrat pointing a high-powered rifle in the direction of your children?

This shit doesn't happen anywhere near as frequently or as large as it does in the US, because few other countries that aren't active conflict zones have the saturation of private weaponry that we do. You can't mass stab 27 people as easily.


This is also why I split out the topic, BTW. I *knew* this discussion would erupt.

[Flying Dice]

I kinda hope a shooting happens at a NRA convention so those fucks learn it the hard way.
Lobbyism should be punishable by death.

I don't think anyone would be stupid or insane enough to try to shoot up an NRA con. That's why you use high explosives.

[Neonivek]

This is also why I split out the topic, BTW. I *knew* this discussion would erupt.

Dang people and asking why something happened and how it could have been prevented getting in the way of empty sympathy and dirrectionless anger!

don't think anyone would be stupid or insane enough to try to shoot up an NRA con

Hmm... interesting... Technically that does put a point in favor of the NRA actually being right all along.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Google says no. It also says I can get a Bullet-proof notepad for 50 dollars.
 
Prices seems fairly expensive though. 40 dollars for neck-armor alone. Wasn't the Aurora Guy also Wearing armor? Where do these peopel get the money for all this crap.

Well, it isn't exactly like they need to keep any savings afterwards. They can spend all they have.

If there's a second shooter, it is very much within the realm of possibility that the first shooter was killed by them.

Interesting theory. Haven't seen anything to suggest it, which makes me think the two were working together. but I suppose it is a possibility.

It happened at Columbine. That was intentional on both of their parts, but when dealing with the violently insane...