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Combined Syndicates of America

8 (22.9%)

American Union States

6 (17.1%)

Pacific States of America

15 (42.9%)

United States of America

6 (17.1%)

Total Members Voted: 35

[Tarran]

And who are their enemies?

[Bdthemag]

So what are the sides?

Syndicalist Internationale: Commune of France, Union of Britain, Italian Socialist Republic. Enemies with Mittle Europa.

Mittle Europa: Germany, Flanders-Wallonia, Finland, United Baltic Duchy, Lithuania, Ukraine, and White Ruthenia. Enemies with the Syndicalist Internationale.

Entente: Canada, National France (French Government in exile in Africa.), Australasian Confederation, Delhi, and the Carribean Federation. More of a neutral party, although there are aspirations in Canada to regain the british islands.

I plan on going more in depth explaining the various alliances in a later update when it becomes relevant to our situation.

[Svarte Troner]

I've never played as America (ever in a HOI game  ), but I don't think Canada declares war on the US during the civil war (in pretty much all cases I've seen), they just take New England and/or Alaska sometimes. Mexico will occasionally attack the Pacific States and the other rebels (I've seen them take over basically everything of worth west of Louisiana, including Alaska).

[Bdthemag]

I've never played as America (ever in a HOI game  ), but I don't think Canada declares war on the US during the civil (in pretty much all cases I've seen), they just take New England and/or Alaska sometimes. Mexico will occasionally attack the Pacific States and the other rebels (I've seen them take over basically everything of worth west of Louisiana, including Alaska).

Canada does usually take New England and Alaska, but occasionally I've seen them try to make a mad dash through the top-center of the U.S. and end up with pretty weird borders.

[Alkhemia]

I say Mittle Europa since France and Britain are on the other side.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

We don't need no damn alliance. This is America.

[Tarran]

Yeah, screw the alliances. Pick a faction with the least friends then piss all of them off. America is an alliance in itself.

[EuchreJack]

I've never played as America (ever in a HOI game  ), but I don't think Canada declares war on the US during the civil (in pretty much all cases I've seen), they just take New England and/or Alaska sometimes. Mexico will occasionally attack the Pacific States and the other rebels (I've seen them take over basically everything of worth west of Louisiana, including Alaska).

Canada does usually take New England and Alaska, but occasionally I've seen them try to make a mad dash through the top-center of the U.S. and end up with pretty weird borders.

It's actually an event.  The player of the "traditional" United States can either chose to confront Canada about the annexation of New England and Alaska and declare war, or give up New England and Alaska without a fight, in which case Canada tends to be an ally of the United States and war is averted.

Uphold the Constitution when it comes up.

In case it wasn't obvious, America First United are the Nazis.  So I generally don't play as them.  If somebody could explain to me how they aren't the Nazis, I'd be glad to hear it.

Combined Syndicates of America vary based upon the player.  Remember they were formed by multiple ideologies.  So after winning the Civil War, they can chose which ideology to follow.  While they certainly can be Stalinist Communists, they can also chose the socialism common in modern-day Europe.

And for those who don't like either of the above, and don't like the "traditional" United States, note there is another major faction in the Civil War to chose from (no spoilers, but they're basically fighting to be left alone by everyone else). 

Or we can be Hawaii, but that is the sort of thing we'd have to be planning already in order to achieve (basically like a micronation, except we could do a couple things now that would "beef them up", but it mostly involves exploiting knowledge of the later events in this mod).

[Firelordsky]

I love playing as the fourth major faction. Is it not allowed to state the name of this faction yet?

[majikero]

the fourth power is in the Pacific. That's all I'm telling.

Funny thing is, when the world goes south, Japan will be the only bastion of democracy in the game if they choose the right events.

[Sheb]

Go with the CSA. Nazis have been done to death already.

[Stworca]

Funny thing is, when the world goes south, Japan will be the only bastion of democracy in the game if they choose the right events.

Kamikaze'ing their way to Free Press and Human Rights

[MetalSlimeHunt]

In case it wasn't obvious, America First United are the Nazis.  So I generally don't play as them.  If somebody could explain to me how they aren't the Nazis, I'd be glad to hear it.

Well, they aren't exactly Nazis. They're a reactionary group of culturally right-wing populists, which is not exactly akin to the Nazis and their radical ideal of a future world where everyone is a Nazi or dead. Same ballpark, but not the exact same.

Plus, Huey Long is leading them. I don't know quite enough about Kaiserreich Long, but the historical Long was one of the few people to ever pull off being an enlightened dictator in a democracy. I certainly see the potential for that to be twisted into a Hitler-esq situation, though.

Anyway, at the end of the day nobody ever plays as the American Union State, so that's why I think we should switch to them when the time comes. The only major American faction that gets less playtime is the PSA.

[Svarte Troner]

Funny thing is, when the world goes south, Japan will be the only bastion of democracy in the game if they choose the right events.

In my current game, Japan's completely authoritarian and owns half of east Asia. I'm completely authoritarian too though... so screw democracy.

Speaking of which, I don't get why the radical left in this game is authoritarian, Syndicalists and Anarchists as dictatorships? I can understand Totalism, which is basically Stalinism, but the other less radical ones are on the complete opposite of the democracy-authoritarian spectrum.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The democratic far-left group in this timeline are the Unionists, if memory serves.