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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #105 on: December 13, 2012, 03:10:36 am »

Haha yeah, should have said 'ninjitsuu'. Funny thing was in the dream I thought it was just karate chops and fast movements etc. but I was proved totally wrong and got schooled. :P
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« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2012, 03:12:22 am »

Haha yeah, should have said 'ninjitsuu'. Funny thing was in the dream I thought it was just karate chops and fast movements etc. but I was proved totally wrong and got schooled. :P

Ignoring that people question the validity and authenticity of "Ninjitsu".
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #107 on: December 13, 2012, 09:21:23 am »

lack of authenticity actually makes it a better fighting style, as it has been artificially constructed by combining what has been found to work in an era of global communication, rather than being based on some medieval villagers' experience and bogged down by tradition for a thousand years

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« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2012, 01:37:45 pm »

In a slight variation of the original question, which martial art would be best for me to try? Mostly for the exercise, but also for the incredibly unlikely circumstance of self defense. My distance running is probably better training for that, but one can never be too prepared, I suppose. I'm 5'9" and 120 pounds (~1.75 meters and ~54kg.), and have low upper body strength. I've been recommended Wing Chun, but...


It depends if you want to more doing it for fun / exercise or for self defense and if you wanna more grapple/do wrestling. I'm also a pretty lightweight and have found difficulties to find a suitable a partner for that..one reason I'm not in a club anymore..we would probably fit together for grappling ;)....
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #109 on: December 13, 2012, 04:11:15 pm »

grappling larger people for training is actually extremely helpful (it fits back with the previous discussion on how sparring partners *should* make resistance for you to understand how grappling works)

if you rely on superior strength instead of proper leverage, you're doing it wrong  :P
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2012, 04:26:32 pm »

Understanding leverage and balance is so huge.  The most common remark I've heard from first time wrestlers matched against an experienced wrestler of equal size and strength is something similar to "It's like trying to wrestle a boulder.  They're just fucking unmovable.  I don't understand!"
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« Reply #111 on: December 13, 2012, 04:43:17 pm »

exactly. the best introduction you can get is an expert taking your wrist and guiding you trough the effects of rotations on it and the resulting forces on your body, making you feel them.

I move it this way, and you will feel like bending around your shoulder.
this way, and you are rotating trough your anke.
this way, and you are bending backward.
etc.
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« Reply #112 on: December 13, 2012, 07:06:11 pm »

grappling larger people for training is actually extremely helpful

This applies to sparring too. Three inches of reach advantage is a lot, and if you get used to fighting people tall and lanky enough to have that, people your own size become much easier to fight. Also, sheer body mass contributes a lot to how much force someone can put into their attacks and how much control they have of overall positioning. If you get used to fighting people significantly heavier, when fighting people your own size it becomes much easier to walk through their attacks, generally smother them and move them to where you want them to be.

Much like getting into the habit of running with ankle and wrist weights, then taking the weights off.

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« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2012, 07:07:30 pm »

As well learn to split step so you can fool your attackers and run away from them.
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« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2012, 07:47:20 pm »

Much like getting into the habit of running with ankle and wrist weights, then taking the weights off.
Completely fucking up your running form and wasting loads of energy thereby?  :P The point has been made, though.
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« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2012, 07:52:45 pm »

Much like getting into the habit of running with ankle and wrist weights, then taking the weights off.
Completely fucking up your running form and wasting loads of energy thereby?  :P The point has been made, though.

Worse, I've been told this can fuck up your joints.
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« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2012, 07:54:38 pm »

If you wear bad shoes and land heavily on your heels, sure. So don't do that.

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« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2012, 08:02:22 pm »

I was warned that the strain it places on your elbows and knees does more harm than good.
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2012, 08:03:57 pm »

If you wear bad shoes and land heavily on your heels, sure. So don't do that.
Bad shoes?
Are you saying I should leave my clogging shoes at home, or are you saying that I should go out and buy something other than sneakers if I want to try it?
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Re: Which martial art is best?
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2012, 08:05:04 pm »

I've tried it while wearing fantastic running shoes and being fairly light on my feet, and it's still not a good thing.

Here's a relevant article

Even a small weight all the way on the end of your leg can add a lot of rotational inertia. Moreover, the pull down on your ankles while you bring your leg up is really bad for your ankles. (Probably not dislocation without a ridiculous amount of weight, but definitely strain and possible stress fractures.) It's not just the landings. They're a bit better suiting for walking, since one of your legs is always on the ground. If you're running quickly, you should have a high turnover rate and thus having weights will cause stress for every up and down stroke of the foot.
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