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[Thecard]

Well, I asked it earlier but you didn't exactly give me an answer.  Well, you did, but I've never read the book you mentioned, so here goes:
Are there any laws programmed into robots?  If so, what are they?

Spoiler: Asimov's Three (click to show/hide)

1)Robots cannot harm a human through action or inaction
2)Robots must obey any orders a human gives unless it will violate law 1.
3)Robots must preserve themselves, unless doing so violates laws 1 or 2.

Asimov was pretty good at science fiction, especially robots.  He believed that in order for Artificial Intelligence to be safe to use, those three laws would have to be hard-coded into the 'bots.
But there are certainly other schools of thought, and different rules.  I'm asking in case there are, because I have to agree with Asimov that you would need to have those laws or humanity would be dead pretty quickly.

I know about Asimov and his three laws. Heinlein is my favorite sci-fi author. Anyway, the three laws are good in the case of self-aware robots. However, take MIR07XP. It's a military bot designed for killing. It is also not self-aware. Thus, Asimov's laws do not apply. For charlie, there is a modified version of the 1st law which is Robots can not harm a human that is a neutral or ally. Otherwise Charlie couldn't fight human aggressors or arguably zombies

Yeah, that makes sense.  I think Charlie (and other military bots) would have some changes.  In two, they can only be ordered by military, and then it is influenced by the chain of command.  And those orders can override the first.

How does command authority work for our chromey buddies?

MIR07XP takes orders from everyone in the squad. If mesor gives him an order, he'll do that first. Charlie will do whatever thecard has him do.

Yeah.  For me, It'll be mostly the same as Mir.  Biggest difference is that if you tell Mir to move a bus out of the way, he'll probably blow it up, while I'll probably try to drive it if possible.


Oh, and I figure Weasel is higher up than Mesor.  Is he?

[Persus13]

MIB is higher up then MIR07XP (btw, that stands for Mobile Infantry Robot #7 Experimental Prototype.). Other than that no one knows where he is on the chain of command. He seems to have a second mission he needs to complete.

[mesor]

Not really thats why it says I'm team leader.
If it's like normal military he's under my command unless the order contradicts his own or goes directly against his objective.

He's the top ranked NPC, might out rank all of you but at most he's equal rank to me but since he's not military I technically would still out rank him.

[Persus13]

Not really thats why it says I'm team leader.
If it's like normal military he's under my command unless the order contradicts his own or goes directly against his objective.

He's the top ranked NPC, might out rank all of you but at most he's equal rank to me but since he's not military I technically would still out rank him.

Everyone's equal except mesor, then if he gets killed he'll be replaced by Hanz.

[mesor]

I can live with that.
I think.

[Thecard]

Would you mind linking the game in the OP here?

Weasel can call in Air Strikes.  That suggests he's in better standing with the guys upstairs than Mesor's character.  My guess (and bad feeling) is that he's going to follow your orders until he reaches whatever his objective is, at which point he'll betray us.  But he'll be following orders, so he won't get in trouble for it, we'll get in trouble for resisting.
So... we should keep an eye on him.

[mesor]

Yea I worked that out hours ago.

Hence the name weasel and the back stabbing bit where everybody else's skills are.

But meh he has pull with the politicians most likely and they gave him military power.
He's not much of a fighter anyway, if needs be we can take him down.

[Strife26]

I'm going to trust Weasel implicitly and be his bestest friend forever. Figure that  it'd be perfectly unsurprising for our bots to have an unknown override protocol for him outranking us, no?


I suppose that tracking clips would work, but remember that my mg is feeding belts. Happiness is either a belt fed or a breach fed weapon, after-all.

[mesor]

The robot is fine.
It'll do as it's told.

Weasel is the problem but I'll shoot him in the face when the time comes.

[Strife26]

We might as well start teamkilling on our chopper then! Someone shoot the pilot!



Wait, we're just flying in on the chopper, right? Who's flying it, how's extraction going to work, and what's it armed with?


Aaaaand I claim to be on whatever it's armed with right now and recommend we burn some chaingun ammo on the nearest mob of zeds we see. Good for group morale, doncha know. 

[mesor]

Yea dude our first move is as we land.

You can stay if you want, but no cookies or zombie mashing for you.

[Thecard]

Yeah, see?  That's what I'm worried about.  The pilot is probably working with Weasel, and would leave us if we killed him.  His political pull is dangerous, and there's probably more than meets the eye to this guy.
Maybe he has a hidden cereal cannon?

[mesor]

So we fight our way out.
Or we drive.

One way or another we'll get out once our job is done.
Besides we're rescuing the President I doubt they'd abandon him.

[Thecard]

So we fight our way out.
Or we drive.

One way or another we'll get out once our job is done.
Besides we're rescuing the President I doubt they'd abandon him.

But I have no doubt he'd abandon us.

[mesor]

I'll borrow a little bit of c4 and hide it on him, if he ditches us I'll blow his ass up.