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FearfulJesuit

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Time for a new laptop.
« on: December 09, 2012, 02:01:20 pm »

Due to a fine motor skill deficiency (nothing big, I'm happy to report- my handwriting's not that pretty and I'm a klutz but that's about it), I've been writing my school assignments on some variety of electronic device since sixth grade at the age of nine. At first it was an Alphasmart, which was sort of a mini-laptop that could only do word processing and had an amazingly shitty screen. In ninth grade I updated to a really old laptop which took ten minutes to boot, so it was quickly replaced by a netbook. The netbook did what it needed to do- writing my papers and playing some not very computer-intensive games- pretty well. I had two of the same model (man, I was hard on my gadgets) before my parents got me a $450 Toshiba PSC08U-06P038 model, which is what I'm typing this on.

It's been a faithful laptop, surviving one time where the hinges got shot to hell (my fault- I take better care of it now). In the past few weeks, though, it's started to decay. In September, for example, it could play Dwarf Fortress fine. Now FPS is extremely jumpy, and the game's unplayable. iTunes takes a while to find songs. Chrome crashes every couple of hours. Luckily I don't have any word processing that I need to do, since I'm not at school and don't have a job, but it's starting to get kind of obnoxious. My estimate is that it might last another few months before finally succumbing to something.

Luckily, fate has provided. As I believe I've mentioned, in just over a week I'm flying to Brazil to spend the rest of an aborted gap year, and I'll not be taking my laptop with me. Firstly, it'll get in the way of my social life (or could), my family will have a computer I can use, and- this was the condition I set out to my mother when she suggested this- I'll be getting an external before I go so I can save all my games, anime and music.

When I come back, I'll be starting college at the University of Oklahoma. In a successful bid to attract National Merit Scholars, OU has provided them with a very generous scholarship package, and I will therefore be one of over six hundred. Among the many, many benefits of this scholarship package is a $1500 laptop allowance.

So, basically, this laptop is dying, but at just the right time since I'll be kissing goodbye to it this week. This means that I need to start looking at laptops. Since the allowance is just for laptops, there's no point in spending a penny less than $1500. On the other hand, I can only subsidize something slightly better up to the tune of, let's say, an extra $250. So whatever I buy should be at or above $1500 and certainly less than $1750.

What do I need? Well, any laptop worth its salt will be able to write my papers, so as long as I can install OpenOffice on it. Otherwise:

-I am a gamer, but I am not a graphics snob. I'm unlikely to be playing anything more advanced than 2008-2009, so the card should play games that came out then. A good graphics card is of course useful, but it can get away with being one or two notches below top-of-the-line.
-On the other hand, a good processor is paramount. Mostly for Dwarf Fortress, although a good processor pays off all sorts of places.
-It needs to have a relatively spacious hard drive. My current is 285 gigs big, but my new laptop should have AT MINIMUM five hundred gigs available and ideally a terabyte. I can't see myself using more than one terabyte, but it's always good to have.
-It must have a numpad for gaming.
-It doesn't need to be made of steel, because I've learned a thing or two about taking care of laptops (carry it in a sleeve!), but it shouldn't fall apart at the drop of a hat because Accidents Happen.
-It should not be butt-ugly (but doesn't need to look any better than average either), it can get away with being a little bit heavy but can't be a brick, and it needs to be fairly long-lived.

So I'm looking for suggestions. I have no brand loyalties. My Toshiba has served me well, but one of my meatspace friends who is more informed in these matters than I warns me that Toshibas generally have lifespan problems. I'm open to anything, really (though this is an all-purpose laptop, and I don't want a laptop that is Just for Gamers).

EDIT: Another, smaller question: the processor on this laptop is a Pentium Dual-Core CPU T4500. How much better would a 3rd generation Intel i7 be?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2012, 03:35:32 pm by dhokarena56 »
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 02:05:28 pm »

SagerNotebooks www.sagernotebook.com they are custom built to what ever you need

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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 02:03:04 pm »

Have you ever cleaned/unclogged the heatsink or replaced the thermal paste? Have you ever wiped Windows and done a fresh reinstall? A computer really doesn't "die" until the capacitors on the motherboard start going bad, and it doesn't sound old enough for that.

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a laptop that is Just for Gamers
No such thing. If you play games, there are only two kinds of laptops: Those with a decent dedicated video card, and those without. If you play games at all, you want the former. Even if you aren't a "graphics" snob about the current lineup of games, you'll at least be able to play future games.

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How much better would a 3rd generation Intel i7 be?
Overpriced. A budget gamer only really needs an i3, and a mid-range i5 if you want it to be future-proof. Yet you will only find laptops with decent video cards paired with overpowered processors. Seriously, every "gaming" laptop ever was built for a video performance bottleneck before a processor bottleneck.

Cheapest thing within reason are the new AMD-fusion processors. AMD is trying to create a "budget" gaming laptop market with them. Grab one of the newer trinity models, like an A-10. The dedicated video is actually as good as an entry-level dedicated card, and the processor will give an i3 a run for the money at the same price. You could get one a high-end one without a dedicated video card within the 450-600$ range IIRC. An Intel i3 with a dedicated card will cost at least 100$ more. They're even cheaper if you get a refurbished model.

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SagerNotebooks www.sagernotebook.com they are custom built to what ever you need
Sager is a pretty good deal, I can vouch for them. Best if you're looking for a high-end gaming laptop at a reasonable price.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2012, 02:38:24 pm »

I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Z500 MBYF6MX. It has some pretty decent stats for a 1200$ laptop:
8 gigs of ram,
3rd gen. core i7 processor,
about 6 hours of battery life (More like 5 hours in my experience),
2gig NVIDIA GeForce GT 645M GPU,
and a terabyte of hard drive space. (Which I will replace with a 256 gb SSD soon enough)

It has pretty good specs for the price, and a sleek design to boot.
I would have suggested it to you, since it seems to fit your needs, but I can actually only find Scandinavian retailers selling it.

Either way, when searching for a laptop. Always try to sort offers by how new the model is. Price and performance don't actually go hand in hand in the consumer electronics world, and offers are more often than not ordered by popularity. Always try to find the cheap but new models to get the most computer per $.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 02:39:35 pm »

I spent $500 on a Lenova and play Starcraft 2 / Diablo 3 on make settings at 720p.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

The numbers are a decent way of ballparking.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 10:27:56 pm »

Toshiba! They sell gaming quality stuff (with customizability so you can choose the cheapo graphics card and sweet processor) and their Satellite line is widescreen and includes a numpad. You can also get a giant screen to impress your friends.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 10:40:36 pm »


Asus is generally considered as one (or the) best laptop brand.

Considering you have 1500$ (that's quite large), you can easily aim for i7 (I got mine for 700€, with 6Gb, a good video card). i3 is really lacking if you want to play some recent games. I think you can also easily grab at least 8Gb RAM, and a good video card (that's one of the most important part, they get old rather quick). Of course, the laptops will evolve a lot in one year, so you can't really choose already.

Do you want a 17", a 15", a 13" ? 17" are quite big (and not really mobile), and 13" are a bit small.

Some little details about your laptop : where does it expels the hot air, is the keyboard backlit, will you use a mouse (if not, a big pad is better)
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 11:34:31 pm »

I can't justify spending more than $500 for a laptop, but I'm a notorious skinflint.
At the $1500 price point, you're not going to get anything crappy (unless it's an Alienware, but at worst you're paying for flash).
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 03:15:57 pm »

University of Oklahoma has a 1500 dollar laptop subsidy? That's generous enough for me to look into them a bit, I'd say.


But yeah, I don't think it'd be easy to get a bad laptop at that price.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2012, 04:05:51 pm »

University of Oklahoma has a 1500 dollar laptop subsidy? That's generous enough for me to look into them a bit, I'd say.


But yeah, I don't think it'd be easy to get a bad laptop at that price.

Only if you're a National Merit Scholar and yes, I would definitely recommend looking into them.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2012, 10:02:26 pm »

Get a Lenovo Thinkpad.
My school got everyone one and they do just about anything.
It's got 280 gigs of space on it, and good enough specs to maintain about 30FPS on Vindictus with 20 people hacking away at a giant polar bear.
In fact, Planetside 2 is the only game I haven't been able to play on mine.
And I think they're only $1,000 right now.
It's also got a million USB slots on it, which is good, because it comes with no microphone jacks. It has one built in though.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 05:16:03 pm »

i dunno why you guys are pointing at the cheap stuff when hes willing to blow cash :P

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 09:33:55 pm »

If you get a 1k laptop that can run pretty awesome on some good games, imagine the money you have left over for good games!
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 11:51:53 pm »

i dunno why you guys are pointing at the cheap stuff when hes willing to blow cash :P
Because you can spend the rest on hookers and blow.
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Re: Time for a new laptop.
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 12:30:12 am »

i dunno why you guys are pointing at the cheap stuff when hes willing to blow cash :P
Because you can spend the rest on hookers and blow.
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