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Stone (Solar sail transport)

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Voting closed: December 13, 2012, 01:24:40 pm

[Aseaheru]

i wasn't attempting to be sarcastic. sorry that it seamed that way.
and it WAS only an idea. i often get them, but most are bad ideas.

[tryrar]

Well one thing this ship still needs is a name. If there isn't a suitable norse name for this I think I'll go to the other side of europe and use Greek mythology.

How bout Trojan?(A bit cliche, but since this is a miner that can double as an assault ship, it would make the perfect Trojan Horse)

[evilcherry]

The boredoom is exactly because we are given really little freedom in terms of input, UR.

Big ships of course would have more subsystems, so we can of course change directions in terms of design now and then.

[Morrigi]

Can we modify a drone schematic to launch high-velocity, tungsten cored teddy bears? Kill the pirates with kindness!

[GreatWyrmGold]

No.

[RAM]

Well one thing this ship still needs is a name.

You could call it Brokkr

Volume is much better for my system of rolls. I should make civilian equivalent of sizes, because it's indeed a slightly different story. Calling civilian ship frigate, cruiser or battleship is just silly. Feel free to suggest lists. I am bad in civilian names

Probe, Shuttle, Barge, Liner, Freighter, Hulk, World-ship, Artificial planet.
Dingy, Yacht, Tug, Clipper, Leviathan...
Grain, Pebble, Rock, Boulder, Hill, Mountain, Range, Continent, Moon, Planet...

[RAM]

Trying to assemble a bit of a compendium, sorry if I missed something important...
combat vehicles are rated light/medium/heavy according to their weaponry.

Spoiler: Stone transport corvette (click to show/hide)

Stone class vessel
Corvette
Designers: B. O’Donald, T. Jones
Estimated time: 4 months

Overview:
Task: Primarily cargo hauling, but as it is very basic and designed to have modules installed it can be used for a large variety of tasks.
   Power: 4 engines, 4 solar sail panels.
   Cargo capacity: up to 10 modules without any escape pods/ crew modules. A standard cargo module can hold upwards of 1000 cubic meters of cargo.
   Armaments: 1 basic point defense laser/equivalent
   Crew: designed to have a crew of 6 minimum.

   NOTES: the ship is designed so that the crew compartments are towards the rear, just forward of the rear airlocks (2). The four engines can be exchanged for other types, and a 5th can be installed between them. Solar sails can be exchanged for solar panels.

Priorities:
   Ease of repair/upkeep
   2 Use of local materials
   2 IC cost

Spoiler: Hiram-1 Heavy drone (click to show/hide)

Name: Hiram-I Railgun Defensive Drone (HIRDD)
Desired Volume: Drone (~5 meters in diameter)
Team: ? At this point, I don't care. Maybe Brian and Mark?
Estimated Time: 1.5 Months?
General Description: A roughly spherical drone, with main engines on one end, auxiliary rockets to the sides, and a turret to the "front" end of the drone. This turret holds a single railgun, firing at the lazy speed of 150 rounds per minute. These rounds are 85% plastic darts which are designed, in both polymer and form, to pierce ship hulls. The whole drone is designed economically, so it can be made in large swarms. While a few are hardly a threat to an armed ship, due to their frailty and the fairy primitive AI, in large numbers they can be impressive. A hundred or so Hiram-I's can probably fill a smallish ship with holes until it loses atmosphere before the larger ship can make a notable dent in their numbers. Against well-armored ships, they're not so good, but the AI's tendency to stay as far away from other ships as they can while still being able to hit their target means that only actual weapons work against them--most point-defense lasers don't have the accuracy to hit them, even if forced to try.
Priorities: Cash Cost 2, Agility 1, Time to Make 1, Durability (neglected) 1

Spoiler: Lux/Heimdallr Heavy corvette (click to show/hide)

Lux Class Laser corvette
corvette class
Team:us, mark, anton
time:3 months
Volume: about 10m*10m*40m,
general description: Small and elongated, the Lux is basically a large laser, built with as few rare components as possible. The laser is powered by a large battery and several large ceramic capacitors, instead of a large, expensive reactor. The laser is controlled by a set of advanced targeting algorithms specialized in triangulating ships from long distances using large amounts of sensor data, making it compatible with sensor drones. The ship is also equipped with external drone racks, allowing it to launch a small number of drones such as the Oculus or hiram.

Priorities:
Laser focal range-2
targeting algorithms-2
cheap materials-1

Lux Heimdallr Class Laser corvette
corvette class
Team:us, mark, anton
time:3 months
Volume: about 10m*10m*40m,
general description: Small and elongated, the Heimdaller is basically a large laser, built with as few rare components as possible. The laser is powered by a large battery and several large ceramic capacitors, which allows it to make do with a much smaller reactor. The laser is controlled by a set of advanced targeting algorithms specialized in triangulating ships from long distances using large amounts of sensor data, making it compatible with sensor drones, and the corvette itself contains an Oculus Sensor system. The ship is also equipped with external drone racks, allowing it to launch a small number of drones such as the Oculus or hiram.
Priorities:[/b]
Laser focal range-2
targeting algorithms-2
cheap materials-1

Spoiler: Valkyrie/Asgard/Vörðr heavy/medium fighter (click to show/hide)

XSR-1 "Valkyrie" Fighter
Desired Volume: 200m³
Team:Us, Mark, Anton
Time: 2 Months
Description:Basically the smallest ship you can get while still having a fusion plant, engine, weapon, and cockpit, the Valkyrie is designed as a one-man fast escort and antishipping fighter. While not very durable at all(it barely has any armor), this rough hexagonal craft is extremely fast and maneuverable, making it very hard to hit in the first place; and thanks to its micro-fusion plant, it can easily accommodate the power requirements for a single spinal-mounted frigate-class heavy laser. It also boasts good range for a fighter, able to reach from Haven to the TR-12 III astroid belt and back(though this is pushing it a little). While it has some atmo capability(which allows it to be launched from the planet), it is mainly for use in space, as drag and friction can cause unacceptable heat/load stresses at top speed.
Priorities:1 Maneuverability, 1 Laser output, 1 cheaper materials(using ceramics and composites whenever possible), 1 efficient powerplant(reduce size), 1 efficient engine(increased range and overall faster)

I'm guessing then we should go ahead and decide on the project we're gonna do then. I'll start with the final draft of my fighter(well, hopefully final!)

Edit: Now with pics!
XSR-1 "Valkyrie" "Asgard""Vörðr" Fighter
Desired Volume: 500m³
Team:Us, Mark, Anton
Time:4 Months
Description:Basically the smallest ship you can get while still having a fusion plant, engine, weapons, and cockpit, the Valkyrie is designed as a one-man fast escort and antishipping fighter. While not very durable at all(it barely has any armor), this rough hexagonal craft is extremely fast and maneuverable, making it very hard to hit in the first place; and thanks to its micro-fusion plant, it can easily accommodate the power requirements for a pair of linked lasers. It also boasts good range for a fighter, able to reach from Haven to the TR-12 III asteroid belt and back(though this is pushing it a little). [/b]
Priorities:1 Maneuverability, 1 Speed, 1 targeting assist AI, 1 compact powerplant, 1 compact fuel storage

Spoiler: Freya light carrier corvette (click to show/hide)

XSR-1 "Valkyrie" FighterAnd since this would finish about the same time as the Valhalla(IIRC), We could get started on something that'll be the perfect companion:

Name: HYR-1 "Freya" Parasite Corvette
Team:Everyone
Volume:3000m³
Time:4 Months
Description: The Freya is a small-to-medium, roughly elongated diamond-shaped corvette that acts more like a pocket carrier, as its purpose-designed quick-release cradles allow it to carry 5 Valkyries(which make up about one-third its volume!). However, it still allows a fusion plant, engine, support for the crew of the fighters and mothership, as well enough maintenance and fuel for extended missions. This, however, doesn't leave it with very much room at all for weaponry; in fact its only weapons are exactly 2 light laser turrets, one topside, one keel-side(they do, however, between them have full coverage), the lasers are just about powerful enough to be a threat to anything roughly the Freya's size, but anything larger and it would have real trouble penetrating armor., though the rate of fire does allow them to double as point defense weapons The Freya does have some armoring as well as decent agility and speed, making it surprisingly tough.
Priorities:2 Improved Stowage(for the supplies, crew, fighters, and cradles), 1 Maneuverability, 1 composite armoring(increasing armor while not increasing mass too much), 1 AI Targeting(for point-defense mode on turrets)

Name: HYR-1 "Freya" Parasite Corvette
Team:Everyone
Volume:5000m³
Time:5 Months
Description: The Freya is a small-to-medium, roughly elongated diamond-shaped corvette that acts more like a pocket carrier, as its purpose-designed quick-release cradles allow it to carry 6 Vörðrs. However, it still allows a fusion plant, engine, support for the crew of the fighters and mothership, as well enough maintenance and fuel for extended fighter operations. This, however, doesn't leave it with very much room at all for weaponry; in fact its only weapons are exactly 2 light laser turrets, one topside, one keel-side(they do, however, between them have full coverage); the lasers are just about powerful enough to be a threat to anything roughly the Freya's size, but anything larger and it would have real trouble penetrating armor, though the rate of fire does allow them to double as point defense weapons. The Freya does have some armoring as well as decent agility and speed, making it surprisingly tough.
Priorities:2 Improved Stowage(for the supplies, crew, fighters, and cradles), 1 Maneuverability, 1 composite armoring(increasing armor while not increasing mass too much), 1 dual-role turrets

Spoiler: Fenrir-1R Medium fighter/bomber fighter (click to show/hide)

Fenrir-1R Prototype Heavy Starfighter
Mass: 800kg

The Fenrir-1R is a design made in response to the hypothetical existence of long-range pirate attack crafts that aims at avoiding the space station together and heading directly at the planet. It is designed to have very long range and have a reasonable arsenal of a laser cannon and hardpoints for attaching rockets, which can also carry specialized bombs to make it a long range strike craft. Maneuverability is ditched in favor of raw speed, as it is designed for catching up anyway.

Focus: Laser 1, Range 2, Speed 1, Warheads 1

Spoiler: Loki-0R light fighter (click to show/hide)

Loki-0R Prototype Test Fighter
Mass: 600kg

Loki-0R is a design trying to capture our capabilities in fusion drive, atmospheric craft and laser weaponry. While it only has a single laser pod, it is mounted on a turret mechanism and is AI-programmed to be much more effective than anything else in a dogfight.

Focus: Fusion drive output (1), Aerodynamics (2), Atmospheric propulsion (1), AI(1)

Spoiler: Julius/Sigrún medium transforming drone (click to show/hide)

Name
Julius Sigrún
Desired volume
90 m³
Team
Brian O'Donald
Anton Jones
Mark Volkov
Estimated time
2 months
General description of the idea
A transforming mecha drone that can alternate between high speed and high agility by repositioning its engines. To be mounted with twin lasers with 180x90 degree coverage. In speed mode an armour plate should be mounted such that it covers one half of the forward arc of the vessel while the lasers are positions to fire towards the unarmoured side. This should allow it to operate at high speed in a complex battle situation without any obvious vulnerabilities. In agility mode the armour plate and engines should rotate 180 degrees and the laser batteries and sensors should penetrate the armour. The engines should divide their coverage equally to allow acceleration in any direction without repositioning. This should allow it to operate at close range against a single target. Rotational adjustments should be handled by standard microthursters.
Priorities
2-centre of gravity
1-evasion A.I.
1-awareness A.I.
1-tranformation mechanisms

Spoiler: Pythagoras/Valkyrie carrier transport recovery corvette (click to show/hide)

Name
Pythagoras Valkyrie
Desired volume
8000 m³
Team
Brian O'Donald
Anton Jones
Mark Volkov
Estimated time
3 months
General description of the idea
Dedicated recovery vehicle for salvaging equipment and crew from damaged vessels. Equipped to defend legal salvage operations and, if need be, escape with any accumulated salvage. Its armament should consist of the capacity to carry and swiftly deploy up to 8 large drones. This would grant it the option of carrying sensory drones to maintain a complete field of view to detect hazardous environmental factors prior to contact. It should also grant it the capacity to effectively engage most light vessels capable of pursuing it with minimum risk to the crew and cargo. It would also grant it the ability to leave the drones to destroy valuable equipment in hostile territory without requiring a commitment from the vessel itself. any particularly sensitive property that the owners wish to prevent being recovered by other agencies.
 It should possess the capacity to recover an intact fighter class craft. A forward-mounted, space-accessible cargo compartment of approximately 1200 m³ capacity would be appropriate.
 Salvaged vessels may possess hazardous environments so the ability to gain access at any point is required. Additionally a salvaged vessel may become unstable, so rapid egress is vital. To this end the vessel requires a rearside-mounted docking port with external breaching equipment and some measure of armouring.
As salvage tends to exist in hazardous environments, the vessel should be capable of rapid acceleration and early detection of potential hazards.
Priorities
2-Speed
1-drone/fighter launching and recovery
1-boarding apparatus
2-ship to ship alignment A.I.
1-sensors

Spoiler: Occido MI exploding mimic drone (click to show/hide)

   
Occido MI (Kill on Latin, ish)
Team:Everyone.
Time: 1 mouth.
Volume: About 2*2 meters.
General Description: Its appearance is very similar to the Oculus, although a bit larger. But its role is vastly different. Placed within the cluster of sensors it is designed to give every potential aggressor second thoughts before attacking any sensor drones. It is more like a mobile mine than a Drone. Filled with explosives the drone is programmed to hatch onto enemy ships and then  selfexplode.  It is designer to cooperate strongly with its host ships and in this case the sensor drones. It can be programmed to either attack anything with an unidentifiable signal, or to attack whatever that threatens attack the sensor drones/mothership.
Priorities:
Explosives 2
Speed 1
Disguse as a Sensor Drone 1
AI 1

Spoiler: Thor heavy frigate (click to show/hide)

Heh, I just thought up of something really awesome that might actually be in reach of us! Note that this ship is not an immediate thing, and I'll only seriously propose it when it becomes time to come after the pirates seriously.

TRF-1 "Thor" Siege Frigate

Size:75k
Team: Everyone
Time:8 months

The Thor is a medium frigate that has a gravitic linear accelerator cannon(codenamed Mjolnir) running the entire length of the ship that allows it to fire telephone-pole-sized solid granite slugs at a considerable fraction of the speed of light; this allows the Thor to utterly obliterate hardened positions and fortifications that other weapons simply wouldn't harm. While the huge energy draw and long charge-up time of the Mjolnir siege cannon makes it impractical for ship to ship combat, the Thor is also armed with 4 medium anti-ship twin laser turrets as well as at least 8 point defense laser turrets, as well as 4 medium missile racks. However, The heavy armoring of the Thor does make it rather sluggish for its size...

Priorities:3 gravitic accelerator, 1 power management, 1 armoring

Spoiler: Mimingus/Gullinbursti light/medium/heavy Cruiser (click to show/hide)

Name
Mimingus
Gullinbursti
Desired volume
905000 m³
Team
Brian O'Donald
Anton Jones
Mark Volkov
Estimated time
eight months
General description
A 60m sphere. At its core are four pods. Two of the pods are massive laser arrays that are focused through lenses into a single beam that is used for primary propulsion. The other two pods are used for power generation. The main propulsion beam can be harvested and distributed throughout the vessel using a network of lenses that allow the beam to be concentrated into weaponized beams of variable power and directed out through a large number of surface weapon-lenses that convert the beam to a more reactive wave-length and adjust for aiming.
Priorities
2-internal beam control
2-cooling
1-aiming

Spoiler: BIFROST Heavy cooperative drone (click to show/hide)

Name: Bïfrost-I (Bifrost if the GM doesn't like umlauts): For Realising Our Superior Teamwork (BIFROST) Laser Drone
Volume: Drone (5×9×2 meters)
Team: Brian, obviously; I guess whoever was working on the Occulus.
Estimated Time: I'd support either one or two months; maybe more, only if a good argument is made.
Description: A neat little drone. It look like little more than a curved rectangle attached to a normal one, with a protrusion out the front, but it is actually a capable drone. Its design is similar to the Occulus drone, and some of their parts are interchangeable. Despite this, it's a notable drone. Its armament is an OD-I Dual Laser Turret, made with cost as a main priority. This thought of economicality while still being effective has carried over into the whole drone. While they go down easily, BIFROST Laser Drones are intended to be made in large enough numbers to defend places against attack. In a best-case scenario, enough to orbit the entire planet would be deployed a d swiftly turn any invaders into laser-riddled husks. Even in smaller numbers, they can do a number on pirates. BIFROST drones can be deployed orbitally or carried on a ship. As an extra bonus, they also carry solar panels, meaning they provide a valuable service even in times of peace. The drones are spray-painted in various colors of the rainbow before the solar panels are installed. They also have lenses which other BIFROST drones can fire at to allow them to "combine" their laser into a more powerful one.
Priorities: Cash Cost 2, Firepower 1, Power Generation 1, Construction Time 1
Note: The PowerPoint or whatever presentation we use to present the concept to our superiors should include such images as a number of BIFROSTS combining their lasers into a rainbow beam which destroys a fair-sized ship, or beaming a rainbow to the surface to provide power or something. Be sure to mention the mythological significance of the name BEFORE this part.

Spoiler: Brokkr/Trojan light mining corvette (click to show/hide)

BRAINSTORM! I got to thinking the problem with that inner belt is the besides the sparseness its closeness to the star might make it difficult to work, and I came up with ways around that... and that got me to THIS ship:

Name:(TBD)
Size:Corvette
Team:Everyone
Estimated Time:
Description:This dual-role,long and narrow corvette-sized ship is designed to operate and in the hostile environment close to stars. For that, it is covered in proprietary CCC (Crystal Ceramic Composite) Plating design to absorb and dissipate the incredible heat and radiation of near-star orbit. This non-metal plating uses atomic thermal compression structuring to achieve an incredible hardness, radiation dissipation, heat resistance, and durability that is rated for operations up to near-orbit with a B-class star. In addition, the CCC plating doubles nicely as a strong armor plating against hostile actions from other craft.
  This vessel's mission is to specifically act as a small mobile mining base for TR-12's inner asteroid field. To this end, besides the CCC plating, it has an 8-points clamp for securing it to asteroids, a core tunneling rig for tunneling into rock and providing a safe place for miners to work(as well as creating a passageway from the ship to the mining site), and a generous cargo bay as well as 4 light laser turrets for defense should it encounter vessels hostile to it on its way to deliver its cargo. It also boasts good speed since there are situations where even it might want to reposition quickly(such as a brewing solar flare)
 As well, the qualities that make this an excellent hostile-environment miner (it has atmo capability, so it can even mine the more desolate and unforgiving reaches of the planet!) also make it a very good assault craft for attacking other ships with the idea of boarding actions. This ship can take quite a bit of punishment with the CCC armor(allowing it to get close to another ship while under fire), the 8 points clamp can be used on ships as well as asteroids, the tunneling rig can easily double as an assault dock, the cargo holds can hold a generous abount of troops and the laser turrets can easily destroy ships that are too small to board.
Priorities:CCC armor 3, 8 points clamp 1, tunneling rig 1

Can anyone think of a good norse name for this?

Spoiler: Valkyrie atmospheric/orbital transport Corvette (click to show/hide)

Here's my transport ship's idea. It's a dedicated cargo shuttle. Modified it because most transport will be up, not down.

Name: Valkyrie Athmospherical Transport

Desired volume: Fighter-Corvette (Most of it is empty cargo space)

Team: Brian 'O Donald, Mark Volkov, Tara Jones

Estimated time: 5 months

General description of the idea: A mostly automated Ground to orbit spaceplane. It's not equiped for prolonged use outside the athmosphere, but it should last a considerable time near the ground. The ship is build around it's large cargobay, and uses 4 Heavily Modified RAM jets, which will comfortably work up to 30 km altitude. From there, the airintakes will be shut, and the system will switch to onboard propellant. If needed, disposable boosters can be installed to make it to orbit. Once in orbit the ship immediatly docks with the station, as it's fuel reserve isn't that large.

Reentry is different. The ship takes an incredibly slow angle of reentry, resulting in minimal heating and energy expenditure, but also a very long reentry. As soon as the ship comes below 30 km, it reopens the airintake and returns to normal flight. Normal flight can be prolonged as long as need be, provided no mechanical failures occur. In case of a filter failue, the ship should be fine, as it's capable of gliding to the ground without problems.

Powersource: Fusion
Propulsion: Laserpowered Turbojet
        -Rather than running on a fuel, the engine just sucks in air and heats it using a small, but powerfull laser.(similair to the working of a fusion plant actually). Once the air becomes to thin, it switches to a more conventional rocket engine, though still powered by lasers rather than a chemical reaction. Filters, both physical and electromagnetical protect the engine from invasive dust. Filter failure will most likely result in the engine's inside being glassed, with predictable results.
Flight:
   -Free flight up to 30 km. Rocket assisted above that.
   -Capable of gliding and hovering
Fuel: Fusion
Cargo capability: Significant

Priorities:
Focus IC cost: 3
Neglect Orbital operational distance: 2

P.S.
 

The great thing about drones, is that you can recover them. This means that you can launch all of them as soon as any conflict arises without completely depleting your arsenal. The significance of this is that the vessel that transported the drones loses its relevance to the battle and becomes much less valuable as a target...

Not really. The drones are not completely autonomous. In most cases, the vessel that launched them will control them. So if you get said vessel to surrender, you can make them call back the drones.

If you blow the ship blows up, this ship stops shooting, the drones do not. If the ship loses power, the ship probably stops shooting, the drones do not. The ship loses life support: ship loses some effectiveness, drones do not. Ship's entire surface is melted: Ship stops shooting, drones do not. Hostiles close from a sensible distance of a couple of light-seconds to an insane distance of a couple of metres, lands a boarding party, forces its way onto the bridge, then forces the crew to surrender the recall code for the drones: Ship stops shooting, drones do too. All things considered, I think that I would rather that the entities that are most valuable to my person be the entities that are of least threat to the well-being of anyone inclined to harm my person.

P.P.S.[/spoiler]

[hops]

PTW and reading all the pages later.

[Helgoland]

Might want to spoiler that, RAM.

[Aseaheru]

that is a good idea.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Any nomitations for the voting? I'll not put the whole list RAM posted

[Aseaheru]

whole list.

[tryrar]

Well, I'll nominate my Trojan over my fighter design.

For ref:

Name:Trojan
Size:Corvette(about 8km3)
Team:Everyone
Estimated Time:
Description:This dual-role,long and narrow corvette-sized ship is designed to operate and in the hostile environment close to stars. For that, it is covered in proprietary CCC (Crystal Ceramic Composite) Plating design to absorb and dissipate the incredible heat and radiation of near-star orbit. This non-metal plating uses atomic thermal compression structuring to achieve an incredible hardness, radiation dissipation, heat resistance, and durability that is rated for operations up to near-orbit with a B-class star. In addition, the CCC plating doubles nicely as a strong armor plating against hostile actions from other craft.
  This vessel's mission is to specifically act as a small mobile mining base for TR-12's inner asteroid field. To this end, besides the CCC plating, it has an 8-points clamp for securing it to asteroids, a core tunneling rig for tunneling into rock and providing a safe place for miners to work(as well as creating a passageway from the ship to the mining site), and a generous cargo bay as well as 4 light laser turrets for defense should it encounter vessels hostile to it on its way to deliver its cargo. It also boasts good speed since there are situations where even it might want to reposition quickly(such as a brewing solar flare)
 As well, the qualities that make this an excellent hostile-environment miner (it has atmo capability, so it can even mine the more desolate and unforgiving reaches of the planet!) also make it a very good assault craft for attacking other ships with the idea of boarding actions. This ship can take quite a bit of punishment with the CCC armor(allowing it to get close to another ship while under fire), the 8 points clamp can be used on ships as well as asteroids, the tunneling rig can easily double as an assault dock, the cargo holds can hold a generous abount of troops and the laser turrets can easily destroy ships that are too small to board.
Priorities:CCC armor 3, 8 points clamp 1, tunneling rig 1

I think the other two projects were GWG's Bifrost and that transforming drone RAM proposed. Guys, if you want your project to be included in this turn, speak up!

[GreatWyrmGold]

I vote BIFROST.

[Aseaheru]

lets wait untill we get the poll.