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ChuckWeiss

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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 12:50:08 am »

Completely unrelated, but could we get a world seed? and maybe a vague estimate of where that site is on the worldmap? and I guess the version you're using would be important too.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 10:18:38 am »

Update: three more babies last evening, and closer to the falls from the dining room than the river. Then the save got corrupted, so game over.

ext time, what if I put a statue under the water with eight grates around it?

Re: the seed, I'll see what I can do tonight. I'm using Fortress Defense mod- just adds extra races to fight. I have a backup save, so I'll pull the seeds from there.

Will update!
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 12:49:57 pm »

Is there a dead human at the bottom of the waterfall?
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 01:16:21 pm »

My guess would be, that the pressurised water was pushing your dwarves down the well.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 01:25:35 pm »

Is there a dead human at the bottom of the waterfall?

Nope, unicorn. Like I mentioned, crawling with 'em.  :)
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2012, 02:11:50 pm »

Is there a dead human at the bottom of the waterfall?
Nope, unicorn. Like I mentioned, crawling with 'em.  :)
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2012, 03:55:34 pm »

Might I offer a suggestion for any map that has a waterfall already on it. Build a tunnel through the waterfall.

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X -ground/rock
7/1 -water
. -floor
= -wall
# -grate

z-0
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z-1
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z-2
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z-3
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If your only path to the surface/dinning hall is through this waterfall tunnel then everyone will mist up. Also it is possible to put grates down like this, just have to keep trying. Also, no muddy anything, no flooding.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2012, 07:44:37 am »

Completely unrelated, but could we get a world seed? and maybe a vague estimate of where that site is on the worldmap? and I guess the version you're using would be important too.

Here we are:

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Created in DF v0.34.11.

[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:CREATE WORLD NOW = 3344444]
[SEED:OKO2aO44wugAgoEQOciy]
[HISTORY_SEED:QQeWIQEaUWWaIQU0aGqc]
[NAME_SEED:ySyGSCW8wSwgmQG6GKew]
[CREATURE_SEED:8E4m06OqAgsWsgesyk0a]
[DIM:65:65]
[EMBARK_POINTS:1324]
[END_YEAR:250]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:250:-1]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
[ELEVATION:1:400:800:800]
[RAINFALL:0:100:101:101]
[TEMPERATURE:25:75:101:101]
[DRAINAGE:0:100:101:101]
[VOLCANISM:0:100:101:101]
[SAVAGERY:0:100:101:101]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:3:2:0:1:0:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:3:1:1:2:2:3]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[MINERAL_SCARCITY:500]
[MEGABEAST_CAP:6]
[SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:13]
[TITAN_NUMBER:4]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
[DEMON_NUMBER:22]
[NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:11]
[BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:11]
[VAMPIRE_NUMBER:11]
[WEREBEAST_NUMBER:11]
[SECRET_NUMBER:22]
[REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
[DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:22]
[EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:11]
[EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:11]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:1:16:0]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:1:16:0]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:1]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
[VOLCANO_MIN:1]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
[RIVER_MINS:5:5]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
[SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:3]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:4]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:15]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
[SITE_CAP:396]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:136:272:136]
[RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:132:528:1056]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

As I mentioned, I'm using Fortress Defense mod, v34.11. 
I know the mod will change the layout of settlements, etc., but I imagine that since the layout of rivers and the assignment of evil and savagery happens first, that it would come out the same even with vanilla races?
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2012, 02:05:36 am »

Probably?Not sure though.

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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2012, 03:01:33 pm »

We can find out if we get the rough location of the river junction, right?
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2012, 06:37:07 pm »

As I mentioned, I'm using Fortress Defense mod, v34.11. 
I know the mod will change the layout of settlements, etc., but I imagine that since the layout of rivers and the assignment of evil and savagery happens first, that it would come out the same even with vanilla races?
If the number of world rejections doesn't change, it should stay the same geographically.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2013, 10:30:55 am »

Thanks for the world seed.  For anyone looking for this embark site using vanilla DF, the site is covered up by a civilization by year 250.  It was there when I set worldgen for 5 years, though. 

This picture is the world map at year 5, with the embark site noted.  The embark site is a "good aligned tree" icon (if the arrow isn't clear enough).
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For Armok!

http://imgur.com/hBMf9 is the link, in case my embedding doesn't work.  I've never done that before.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2013, 06:02:23 pm »

Remember: Only the weak, unworthy dwaves die. Importance matters not.
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Re: Am I literally flushing dwarves down the drain?
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2013, 01:12:06 pm »

Remember: Only the weak, unworthy dwaves die. Importance matters not.

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