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moseythepirate

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Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« on: November 29, 2012, 02:30:48 am »
Hey, so I started a human roadside tavern town, but I found that when I tried to create a militia commander and a manager that my noble screen was totally blank.

I did the whole raw modification bid'ness myself, so I may have screwed up. I changed the race_controllable token to go to the humies, and I copied all of the noble position stuff to the humans. However, no nobles, which means that I'll get no paper-pushers, suspicious-salesmen, and especially nobody to save us from a particularly aggressive crocodile. Anything obvious that I may have missed?
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 07:52:36 am »
Consider posting the raws you copy-pasted? You may have missed something like expedition leader that appoints everyone else.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 01:25:01 pm »
Sure thing.
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I think that's all I copied. The only thing I changed was the name of the Hammerer to Executioner, and make him use an axe.
Do you need more of the raws?
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 06:28:14 pm »
I think the question is: did you copy-paste them before or after you genned the world you are playing in? IIRC edits to the entity raws need a new world to be genned for them to work.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 03:17:32 am »
Quote from: CrzyMonkeyNinja on November 29, 2012, 06:28:14 pm
I think the question is: did you copy-paste them before or after you genned the world you are playing in? IIRC edits to the entity raws need a new world to be genned for them to work.

I don't think so. If they were relevant to the gen of the civ, and modify how it would be, maybe. But the nobles are only for the player game. He can simply replace the raws in the save.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 08:43:09 am »
Quote from: PanH on November 30, 2012, 03:17:32 am
Quote from: CrzyMonkeyNinja on November 29, 2012, 06:28:14 pm
I think the question is: did you copy-paste them before or after you genned the world you are playing in? IIRC edits to the entity raws need a new world to be genned for them to work.

I don't think so. If they were relevant to the gen of the civ, and modify how it would be, maybe. But the nobles are only for the player game. He can simply replace the raws in the save.

The nobles file is called upon during world gen, as the queens, administrators etc in legends mode demonstrate. So you can't edit an entity's nobles after world gen.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 11:05:51 am »
Quote from: darkflagrance on November 30, 2012, 08:43:09 am
Quote from: PanH on November 30, 2012, 03:17:32 am
Quote from: CrzyMonkeyNinja on November 29, 2012, 06:28:14 pm
I think the question is: did you copy-paste them before or after you genned the world you are playing in? IIRC edits to the entity raws need a new world to be genned for them to work.
I don't think so. If they were relevant to the gen of the civ, and modify how it would be, maybe. But the nobles are only for the player game. He can simply replace the raws in the save.
The nobles file is called upon during world gen, as the queens, administrators etc in legends mode demonstrate. So you can't edit an entity's nobles after world gen.
Even if it wasn't there is only a very tiny portion of the entity_default.txt file that doesn't require a new world to be generated (namely enabling/disabling reaction use). Everything else requires a regen.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 08:19:13 pm »
So I need to do a worldgen, then, huh? I had a feeling. Thanks for the help, guys.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2012, 05:13:52 am »
Think something might need a regen? Regen. Think something might not need a regen? Put the world back on the anvil of Armok and regen that bitch.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2012, 05:17:37 am »
Nobles cannot be changed because the save file includes titles like kings, barons and the like which participate in the wars, transformation into night creatures etc., so you cannot change them after the world is made.
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Re: Playable humans have blank noble screen.
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 12:24:43 pm »
You clearly didn't read the raws very well. You still have a "chief medical dwarf" other dwarven variants. Rename them for Gods sake! :P Haha so you'd be playing as humans with militia dwarves and CM dwarves :)
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