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[Scoops Novel]

It's not all religion, though i do expect a fanatic spike if we discover other equally or more intelligent life, but you just need one person divebombing territorial aliens.

[10ebbor10]

It's not all religion, though i do expect a fanatic spike if we discover other equally or more intelligent life, but you just need one person divebombing territorial aliens.

Or one alien divebombing us.

But you know, the chance of Xenophobes getting that close to aliens is quite small. At least, if personality screening is still popular in the future.

[Scoops Novel]

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Or one alien/fanatic divebombing us.

But you know, the chance of Xenophobes getting that close to aliens is quite small. At least, if personality screening is still popular in the future.

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FTFY (first time I've ever used it )

[Scoops Novel]

Well then... -.-. Ty.

[LordBucket]

I'm surprised nobody brought that up yet.

Was covered by option 3 in the OP. Note the tentacles.

[Helgoland]

Or one alien/fanatic divebombing us.

But you know, the chance of Xenophobes getting that close to aliens is quite small. At least, if personality screening is still popular in the future.

FTFY (first time I've ever used it )

FTFY

[Loud Whispers]

No one really caters to the possibility of us stumbling on a less advanced species or a more advanced species stumbling on us and technological swaps going on as the superior civilization nurtures the other into a significant place in the universe. Like a space bro, but on a galactic scale.

[Scoops Novel]

Actually, there are at least a few examples. The Uplift series and the Culture jump to mind.

[Haspen]

Shameless PTW.

[Loud Whispers]

Actually, there are at least a few examples. The Uplift series and the Culture jump to mind.

Well I was talking about these threads, but this is greatly interesting nonetheless!

[RedKing]

No one really caters to the possibility of us stumbling on a less advanced species or a more advanced species stumbling on us and technological swaps going on as the superior civilization nurtures the other into a significant place in the universe. Like a space bro, but on a galactic scale.

It's anthropomorphism. Our own history is littered with examples of the more advanced civilization basically fucking the less advanced one with a sharp stick, so it seems rational to assume the same outcome with different species. Our species history is extremely thin on examples to the "bro" kind. Even ones like the Romans came with a rather large catch. "You can join our empire and take part in the wonders of our civilization...but you must bow to the Emperor and forsake your ways (and to gain citizenship, serve 40 years in the Legions)."

One interesting parallel in Earth history not often explored is what happens when an advanced, sedentary but mostly peaceful civilization encounters a less advanced but more militaristic society (frequently nomadic as well). China was the technological pinnacle of Asia for millenia, and had vast manpower resources. And yet, it constantly fell to invading tribes from the steppes. Europe had advanced weapons and armor and a feudal culture that focused on producing elite warriors, and yet the Mongols kicked their asses for decades. The Egyptian Middle Kingdom fell to the Hyksos. The city-states of Mesopotamia fell to the Assyrians. The Romans fell to the sheer weight of barbarian tribes on their borders.

Right now, we're the sedentary culture (although anyone advanced enough to be "nomadic" in space would automatically out-tech us). I like the idea though that one day *we* could be Space Huns/Goths/Mongols, roving the galaxy in packs of aging, (relatively) low-tech ships and fighting our way into established alien empires to claim a chunk of living space.

[scriver]

No one really caters to the possibility of us stumbling on a less advanced species or a more advanced species stumbling on us and technological swaps going on as the superior civilization nurtures the other into a significant place in the universe. Like a space bro, but on a galactic scale.

It's anthropomorphism. Our own history is littered with examples of the more advanced civilization basically fucking the less advanced one with a sharp stick, so it seems rational to assume the same outcome with different species. Our species history is extremely thin on examples to the "bro" kind. Even ones like the Romans came with a rather large catch. "You can join our empire and take part in the wonders of our civilization...but you must bow to the Emperor and forsake your ways (and to gain citizenship, serve 40 years in the Legions)."

"Also, we'll grant you land in one of our outlying provinces like Gaul, there's plenty of place there after we genocided two thirds of the population."

One interesting parallel in Earth history not often explored is what happens when an advanced, sedentary but mostly peaceful civilization encounters a less advanced but more militaristic society (frequently nomadic as well). China was the technological pinnacle of Asia for millenia, and had vast manpower resources. And yet, it constantly fell to invading tribes from the steppes. Europe had advanced weapons and armor and a feudal culture that focused on producing elite warriors, and yet the Mongols kicked their asses for decades. The Egyptian Middle Kingdom fell to the Hyksos. The city-states of Mesopotamia fell to the Assyrians. The Romans fell to the sheer weight of barbarian tribes on their borders.

There weren't really that big a difference in technology, though, and vast manpower resources doesn't matter much if you don't have the communications technology to... Whatever the verb is. Send them around in due time.

[10ebbor10]

Actually, Rome fell to an internal crisis. The economy had been ruined for years, the emperors weren't all that great, many generals planned coups, you still had problems with plebs, and all that stuff.

The Rome of 476 wasn't really a fit empire. It's was in no real cheap to protect it's borders. The tribal attacks were just what happened to kill them. If it hadn't happened, it would have been destroyed by civil war in a short time.