Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Trekkin]

I keep running into a persistent problem with my preferred playstyle, wherein it takes so much crime to get a liberal besides my founder to a high juice level that I can't keep them anywhere without the heat rating shooting through the roof and them all being sentenced to dozens of consecutive life sentences. What's the most efficient way to get Juice up to 500? Is 500 optimal, or should I be running with 3-man squads and going for 200?

I suppose, in a general sense, I'm just wondering how people deal with establishing the Liberal hierarchy beyond the people the Founder recruits personally.

[Darvi]

You can get high Juice and low heat, y'know. Social service helps, as does initially committing crimes that generate Juice without increasing heat, such as credit  card fraud.

[Trekkin]

Credit card fraud gives juice? I've had someone doing it for a month with no change in his juice.
EDIT: I tried hacking, and it does give juice, but it's also amazingly heat-intensive, apparently at random. Somehow my hackers got charged with kidnapping.

[BoxOfAids]

Credit card fraud gives juice? I've had someone doing it for a month with no change in his juice.
EDIT: I tried hacking, and it does give juice, but it's also amazingly heat-intensive, apparently at random. Somehow my hackers got charged with kidnapping.

Yeah that happened to me too. Hacking to 200 juice is a good way to get juice quickly. Keep in mind that having more people at high heat at the same place greatly raises heat levels. Having 6 high-heat people is nearly impossible to deal with, while having 3 groups of 2 makes it much easier.

[Darvi]

Yeah, hacking. I was looking at the wrong part of the source code <_<

[Trekkin]

Ah, ok. I restarted, and they made it to 200 without being charged with kidnapping.

So is there some kind of minimum level of heat below which it won't drop? I've had these guys twiddling their thumbs for months.

[Darvi]

0.

Duh.

[Trekkin]

That makes a certain amount of sense.  I've just got two safehouses at different, unmoving heat percentages, so I was wondering if there's some sort of equilibrium state.

[Darvi]

Well there's two ways of rapidly lowering heat.

Arrest and Death, incidentally.

Other than that, public service always helps.

[BoxOfAids]

Moving between safehouses helps. If you've got around 10 or so heat that you can't get rid of while being in safehouses in the industrial sector, try grabbing a Downtown apartment and flying a flag, then moving there. Usually all your heat will dissipate if it's only 2 or 3 low-heat guys.

[Pesi]

Performing public service has a 1/3 chance per day to lower the liberal's heat by 1 point. There's no way to keep track of this process beyond educated guesses. They'll never be accousted by police while doing that, even if they are guilty of something.

For gaining juice without gaining heat, I reccommend going to the Corp HQ and cracking the safe. Success gives 50/1000 juice and no heat. If they aren't on high alert there'll be no dogs so a ninja should have no problems.

[Darvi]

I think hacking the supercomputer works also for 50/1000 juice, but you'll also need high computer skill in addition to security and stealth. However depending on map layout, it might actually be easier, since a shorter way towards the computer and back means less of a chance to get spotted.

[BoxOfAids]

Performing public service has a 1/3 chance per day to lower the liberal's heat by 1 point. There's no way to keep track of this process beyond educated guesses. They'll never be accousted by police while doing that, even if they are guilty of something.

For gaining juice without gaining heat, I reccommend going to the Corp HQ and cracking the safe. Success gives 50/1000 juice and no heat. If they aren't on high alert there'll be no dogs so a ninja should have no problems.

I learned two new things today! Both good to know, I kind of figured the public service would be like other activities and could have you arrested, and I didn't know the safecracking gave juice even though I'd done it a bunch.

[KA101]

I think hacking the supercomputer works also for 50/1000 juice, but you'll also need high computer skill in addition to security and stealth. However depending on map layout, it might actually be easier, since a shorter way towards the computer and back means less of a chance to get spotted.

Uh...and the Treason charge that results from messing with the supercomputer is heat-free?  I'm not at all sold on that one.  Safecracking or raiding the CCS safehouse would be the way I'd go after 200 Juice.

Made a cute little chart of how I powerlevel people.  May or may not be useful but it tends not to gain much heat:

   Juice  /   Preferred Action
         <0: Community Service
    0-100: Site actions: smash machinery, free rabbits, petty-theft
100-200: Free genetic creatures (have someone with 15+ Heart talk to them to Liberalize), petty-theft, possibly fight at CCS safehouse
  200-1K: Crack safes, fight CCS at CCS safehouse
         1K: Whatever you like, since it can only go down at this point

[Alpheus]

You can locate the CCS safehouse(s) and go on killing sprees there with no murder charges.  They're a lot harder to kill and shoot a lot straighter than angry mobs though.