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[miauw62]

Ah. I did not know when dungeon keeper was released, so i figured i'd just note it.

And i was talking about Fortress mode. I don't think there are any df "clones" that do adventure mode (yet).

[Dutchling]

Ah. I did not know when dungeon keeper was released, so i figured i'd just note it.

And i was talking about Fortress mode. I don't think there are any df "clones" that do adventure mode (yet).

URR and Cult!

edit: Obviously, those aren't clones, but neither are the games linked in the OP.

[Girlinhat]

If you upgrade the graphics then Skyrim is Adventure Mode ripoff   Or Red Faction Guerrilla (which I'm playing now, thanks Hemmingjay).  Or any other free roam game.

Which somehow got me thinking.  Why has no one made a DF clone in scifi?  They tend to stick with the same time period and the same short people.  Y U NO Robots?

[Dutchling]

I'd say procedural generation and being able to play any role in the game is a prerequisite of being DF 1.0 adv mode ''clone''.

[Trollheiming]

Procedural generation is the main thing, really. Playing any role goes back to the detailed world-building of Ultima in the way back.

[Mephansteras]

If you upgrade the graphics then Skyrim is Adventure Mode ripoff   Or Red Faction Guerrilla (which I'm playing now, thanks Hemmingjay).  Or any other free roam game.

Which somehow got me thinking.  Why has no one made a DF clone in scifi?  They tend to stick with the same time period and the same short people.  Y U NO Robots?

Well, there is Maia (Which just got Funded!), although that's less DF clone and more DF meets Dungeon Keeper meets Sci-Fi.

[Neyvn]

Should we mention that WoW ripped off Ultima Online or even further back with some of the grapichless MUDs and stuff...

[Azated]

Which somehow got me thinking.  Why has no one made a DF clone in scifi?  They tend to stick with the same time period and the same short people.  Y U NO Robots?

Aurora... sort of. Lots of depth and complexity, but a much larger scale than DF.

[Robosaur]

I hereby declare this subgenre of RTS games: Fortlikes.

[Trif]

Man, [insert name here]-like is probably the second worst possible genre name.

[Seraphim342]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 

Now, nobody likes it when a game comes out that it basically a carbon copy of a previous title.  They're the equivalent of the low-budget B movies that always come out on DVD alongside big-hype movies.  But if a game wants to build on the successful concepts someone else pioneered, why reinvent the wheel?  If it results in a better game, go for it.  Think about it like science.  If you publish a "discovery" identical to one somebody else did, you're either a plagiarist or just stupid.  But nobody expects every scientist to re-discover gravity, thermodynamics, relativity and calculus on their own before they make a new discovery, because that would be silly and there'd never be any progress. 

So, if somebody came out with a game called "Midget Bunker" that was for all intents and purposes DF with a different name slapped on it, that would tick me off.  But games like AGoD, Towns, Gnomoria, etc... good for them.