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[MetalSlimeHunt]

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They didn't have any anesthesia. That hospital was pretty ransacked. All they had was a medical saw and a rubber tube.

Though the medical saw is a nice point. Amputation is way too easy in fiction, but using a medical saw can justify that. They're designed to slice flesh and bone efficiently.

[beefy]

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Why Omid didn't share his antibiotics with Lee is a mystery... °_°

[MetalSlimeHunt]

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Probably because they didn't know if it would help, and Omid may well have used all of them in the time between Crawford and Lee being bitten. You don't want to take chances with a major infection like the one he had.

[lavenders2]

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Lee couldn't be saved even if you choose to cut his arm off because amputation only works when you do it immediately after the bite. Since Lee left the bite for nearly a day and fainted after the infection spread throughout him it was far too late to save him from the infection. Regardless, the statistics were interesting, since the majority still had this small glimmer of hope that cutting it off would save you. As soon as Lee fainted you knew his fate was death, but despite this the ending was just so well executed and it is definitely the ending that the game deserved. The well written story, voice acting and soundtrack helped absorb you into this nicely crafted world.

Also, someone posted it earlier, but I was pretty much exactly the same with Clementine. She was very well written, to the point where I got very attached to her and went out of my way to help her, save her and do anything for her. She is so cute and innocent that I don't think I could stomach seeing her die. When she was missing at the end of chapter 4 I was very sad, and started to get emotional when her hat and walkie talkie are found on the pavement. Then the zombie pops out and I feel even worse and then Lee just gets bitten and that is when I knew what Lee's fate was, and I didn't want to face that.

As much as I would love to see Clementine in the next game (and not as a cameo, but not as the main character either) I feel that if they screw with her story any more they could potentially ruin it, although given how great every episode is and how it just kept getting better certainly gives me confidence in Telltale to deliver something even better with the next season. I just want to see a conclusive ending to Clementine somehow because I want to make sure she is safe! Even if it was something like "She found Omid and Christa and spent the rest of her days hiding" or even showing her dead body (I will kill Telltale if they do that though). Damnit I just want more Clementine!

[GlyphGryph]

We're far enough along that I'm not going to bother spoiling. If you haven't finished it by now... do so.

First:
For those wondering how the Stranger got to town, I'm surprised. Who he was kicked in for me when I noticed his car parked right in front of the building. The only car, you'll note, that you see in the city that is NOT stripped clean and still looks fully functional.

I also disagree with:

It doesn't have excellent graphics.

I thought the graphics were pretty damn excellent, myself. Not sure which game's you're comparing it too that are better, honestly..

[Catastrophic lolcats]

We're far enough along that I'm not going to bother spoiling. If you haven't finished it by now... do so.

I've always preferred people to use spoilers, especially in such a story heavy game such as The Walking Dead. Some poor bastard might come across spoilers while trying to find technical solutions, for example.

I thought the graphics were pretty damn excellent, myself. Not sure which game's you're comparing it too that are better, honestly..

Graphics and aesthetics are two very different things and it puzzles me why people can't understand the difference.

The game's graphics are pretty mediocre. Poor texture quality across the board but in particular the "common" walkers. The vistas were pretty two-dimensional by today's standards. The models weren't exactly high polygon. Animations were good for the most part but there was an occasional jerky one. Shadow quality wasn't all that great and was poorly optimised (and in my case completely tanked a modern gaming computer on high). It's clearly no Crysis or Dear Esther.

The aesthetics of the game however were great. The game's comic book art-style helped to mask the poor graphics. The models and art of some of the characters were amazing, "Raidoman" still has the best art in the whole game. The attention to detail was pretty cool too, blood remaining on a lot of the cast and their clothes getting ever more dirty.

[GlyphGryph]

Graphics quality is the sum of the quality of the modeling, rendering, layout, and animation. It is subservient to aesthetic - a game's graphics are technical in nature, while the aesthetic is emotional. Technically, however, I think this game was very good.

The animation in this game (imo) managed to feel (overall) quite natural, everything seemed to work well and smoothly. I noticed no major graphical glitches - no real clipping, no jarringly mismatched textures, no aberrant or distracting components.

Elements were clearly and easily identifiable and there weren't any real visual display problems - meaning the layout lacked major flaws common to games nowadays. The actual placement and framing of scenes was amazing overall, as well.

For the rendering, this was, hands down, the best game of it's style I've seen. There was just the right amount of detail to achieve the aesthetic desired. There were a lot of good technical choices made here.

I suppose the modeling and rendering could have been better for the walkers, but the modeling of the main characters at least was amazing.

I normally hate games of this style because it is fuck-as-shit hard to do well - It is a technically difficult style. It's an aesthetic that makes the graphics terribly easy to muck up. This game managed to do it well. If you want to see the perfect example of a game with great aesthetics but poor graphics, look at, say, Psychonauts or Viewtiful Joe.

Graphics are about making the right choices and using the right technology to get your presentation as close to perfect as you can. I think that, technically, The Walking Dead did a really good job at that.

You are the one who seems unable to understand the difference. Statement's like

The game's comic book art-style helped to mask the poor graphics

?

Seriously?

The art-style can't "mask" poor graphics, because it determines what "good graphics" are, because good graphics (from a game perspective) are /solely/ about how effectively that art style is reached. Graphical quality is determined by your goals, and your technical ability to reach them.

Here's the way to tell the difference between a game with good graphics and one with poor:
If you look at it 10 years later, does it look dated? Is it less effective? Is it, in extreme cases, painful to play, because the flaws are easily visible?

Then it is a game with poor graphics. It may have an amazing aesthetic, but you can see all the ways in which it failed to live up to that aesthetic, by comparing it to better alternatives. You can see where the made technical concessions.

A game like, for example, Chrono Trigger? The games graphics are amazing. They support the aesthetic flawlessly, and it doesn't get any worse, by comparison, as the years go by.

I honestly don't think that's going to be the case, here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this is one of those games where I'm going to look back on it in a dozen years and think to myself that it looks terrible. Maybe I will, maybe I'm wrong, but I think this is the best technically executed example of this style I've seen to date (and if you've got examples of games in this style with better graphics, please let me know).

[Vel]

Re: Radioman plotholes

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About him getting there before the Hero Team -- don't they make a point of showing you the car the group looted from the 2nd episode being parked outside the hotel? So, presumably he could've just drove there as soon as he saw their idea to use the train, and mapquest suggests it's only about 2.5 hours (maybe like 4 or 5 if you have to take detours?) from Macon to Savannah by car, and presumably he might not've had the delays they had when getting the train going and then the stop they had to make in the middle.

Edit - it could be pretty easy to infer their destination if Clem had -- which seems pretty darn likely by the circumstances -- told him where her parents were, just by the direction of the rail line.

[Leatra]

Watch this before talking about the difference between graphics and aesthetics.

BTW, that wasn't directed at anyone.