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G-type main-sequence star, yellow stars (Like the Sun, lifetime of ~10 bil. years)
- 3 (23.1%)
K-type main-sequence star, orange stars (Cooler than the Sun, more stable, slightly less massive, lifetime of ~20 bil. years)
- 4 (30.8%)
F-type main-sequence star, yellow-white stars (Slightly hotter than the Sun, less stable, more massive, lifetime of ~3 bil. years, very !!FUN!!)
- 5 (38.5%)
Other classes (Please specify)
- 1 (7.7%)

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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2012, 12:07:02 am »

I still vote Genesis.
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2012, 12:24:54 am »

I'm personally against the perpendicular moons because the only way I could work is if we had a repetitively high magic setting and just kept poring deific might into keeping them stable. Also, the tides would be almost impossible to model. How about instead we have a large primary moon  with a small secondary moon orbiting it? It would take some finagaling to set up (if its even possible ) but once its there it will stay their.


- 0.6AU: Dwarf Rocky Planet. orbiting closely to the K star (directly around it, not around the couple). 0.65g, 0.008atm. Mostly carbon under high pressure. Graphite plains, solid diamond mountains, pitch black lava...

- 1.2-3.6 AU: Asteroid Belt, remnants torn apart by tidal forces from the stars. Highly eccentric orbit.

- 2.4 AU: Us, 0.95 earths, 0.65g, 0.80atm. Atmospheric composition yet unknown. Two moons  Perpendicular?

- 4.8 AU: Generic Rocky Planet. 1.6g, 1.1atm. Lots of ice, mostly CO2 atmosphere. Too cold for liquid water, sadly. Thick co2 atm equals enough insulation for liquid water? also what about a Europan type under ice ocean?
          -Moon 1: 2.5km asteroid
          -Moon 2: 0.3km asteroid
          -Moon 3: 0.1km asteroid

-6.4 AU: Asteroid Belt. Debris left over from planet formation, held in place by gas giant gravity

- 9.6 AU: Generic Red and white Gas Giant. Neptune-sized. Mostly H2 and He. At least 6 notable moons. Small, but noticeable white rings.  I'd swap the size on these two

- 19.2 AU: Generic Blue Gas Giant. Saturn-sized. H2, He and CH4. Fairly noticeable orange rings (nothing like saturn though). At least 3 notable moons, probably more. I'd swap the size on these two

- 38.4 AU: Generic Dwarf Rocky Planet. 0.8g, 0atm. Completely and utterly frozen. At least 1 notable moon, probably more. Also Asteroid Belt with several planetoids.
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2012, 05:05:47 am »

I'm too still for Genesis.
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2012, 06:09:23 am »

- 0.6AU: Dwarf Rocky Planet. orbiting closely to the K star (directly around it, not around the couple). 0.65g, 0.008atm. Mostly carbon under high pressure. Graphite plains, solid diamond mountains, pitch black lava...

- 1.2-3.6 AU: Asteroid Belt, remnants torn apart by tidal forces from the stars. Highly eccentric orbit.

- 2.4 AU: Us, 0.95 earths, 0.65g, 0.80atm. Atmospheric composition yet unknown. Two moons  ((At least one orbit perpendicular to our planet's accos))

- 4.8 AU: Generic Rocky Planet. 1.6g, 1.1atm. Lots of ice, mostly CO2 atmosphere. Too cold for liquid water, sadly. Thick co2 atm equals enough insulation for liquid water? also what about a Europan type under ice ocean? ((Like what 1900 scientists actually though of Venus. Life under a endless cover of clouds?))
          -Moon 1: 2.5km asteroid
          -Moon 2: 0.3km asteroid
          -Moon 3: 0.1km asteroid

-6.4 AU: Asteroid Belt. Debris left over from planet formation, held in place by gas giant gravity

- 9.6 AU: Generic Red and white Gas Giant. Neptune-sized. Mostly H2 and He. At least 6 notable moons. Small, but noticeable white rings.  I'd swap the size on these two

- 19.2 AU: Generic Blue Gas Giant. Saturn-sized. H2, He and CH4. Fairly noticeable orange rings (nothing like saturn though). At least 3 notable moons, probably more. I'd swap the size on these two

- 38.4 AU: Generic Dwarf Rocky Planet. 0.8g, 0atm. Completely and utterly frozen. At least 1 notable moon, probably more. Also Asteroid Belt with several planetoids.

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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2012, 06:50:27 am »

Why do so many people forget about GRAVITY?

Perpendicular moons are impossible. A planet orbiting one star in a binary system is doubly impossible.

Also, do we really need liquid water for non-carbon based life?

Also, I'll be Gorgontus, god of trickery and natural disasters.

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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2012, 06:53:59 am »

We forget about gravity because we are gods and we have plans that need enormous amounts of Rule of Cool
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2012, 06:56:42 am »

Why do so many people forget about GRAVITY?

Perpendicular moons are impossible. A planet orbiting one star in a binary system is doubly impossible.

Also, do we really need liquid water for non-carbon based life?

Also, I'll be Gorgontus, god of trickery and natural disasters.
A moon with an orbit perpendicular to it's planet axis is however, not impossible. Just quite unlikely.

Probably not, but I have no idea how it would work.
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2012, 07:01:45 am »

I meant moons perpendicular to each other.

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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2012, 07:07:18 am »

I meant moons perpendicular to each other.
Yeah (technically they're not impossible but there needs to be a major size or orbit difference to avoid them whacking each other out of orbit)
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2012, 07:09:33 am »



Axis would be pretty much like moon on earth.

Bigger moon takes slightly longer to revolve around the planet.
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2012, 07:17:40 am »

-perpendicular moons are totally possible, just as planets orbiting perpendicularly to the ecliptic are possible. Technically, venus is 180° to everyone else, and we found 90° exoplanets just fine. Why no moons?
-Planets orbiting only one of the suns of a binary system are also possible, assuming the stars are quite far apart and the planet quite close to her star.

Also recent studies shows that the whole "we need a big moon just like ours for axis stability" is a blatant lie.

Yes, the more we know about physics, the closer it gets to the rule of cool. (except for asteroid fields. they NEVER get THAT dense.)
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Re: Create a Planet
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2012, 07:23:33 am »

So, the name for the planet will be Genesis. The mass will be 0.95 earth masses, slightly lower than Earth's mass. Some comments to the solar system model, we all generally agree upon:
- 0.6AU: Dwarf Rocky Planet. orbiting closely to the K star (directly around it, not around the couple). 0.65g, 0.008atm. Mostly carbon under high pressure. Graphite plains, solid diamond mountains, pitch black lava... A planet orbiting only around one star from the couple is impossible. It would have to orbit EXTREMELY close to it, so it would be utterly annihilated inbetween them. A planet orbiting 0.6 AU from this couple, couldn't be able to orbit around a single star anyway. Don't forget, these stars are very close together. No objections to the diamond part.

- 1.2-3.6 AU: Asteroid Belt, remnants torn apart by tidal forces from the stars. Highly eccentric orbit. Should be !!FUN!!

- 2.4 AU: Us, 0.95 earths, 0.65g, 0.80atm. Atmospheric composition yet unknown. Two moons  ((At least one orbit perpendicular to our planet's accos)) The planet is still forming, so the atmosphere is not there at all. The moons... hmm. Let's say one of them formed like our Moon, with roughly the same mass, in an equatorial orbit, while the other is a slightly smaller moon, that used to be a dwarf planet, but got catched in our planet's gravity.

- 4.8 AU: Generic Rocky Planet. 1.6g, 1.1atm. Lots of ice, mostly CO2 atmosphere. Too cold for liquid water, sadly. Thick co2 atm equals enough insulation for liquid water? also what about a Europan type under ice ocean? ((Like what 1900 scientists actually though of Venus. Life under a endless cover of clouds?))
          -Moon 1: 2.5km asteroid
          -Moon 2: 0.3km asteroid
          -Moon 3: 0.1km asteroid
No objections. Maybe this could be a target for future exploration.

-6.4 AU: Asteroid Belt. Debris left over from planet formation, held in place by gas giant gravity
No problems here.
- 9.6 AU: Generic Red and white Gas Giant. Neptune-sized. Mostly H2 and He. At least 6 notable moons. Small, but noticeable white rings.  I'd swap the size on these two

- 19.2 AU: Generic Blue Gas Giant. Saturn-sized. H2, He and CH4. Fairly noticeable orange rings (nothing like saturn though). At least 3 notable moons, probably more. I'd swap the size on these two

- 38.4 AU: Generic Dwarf Rocky Planet. 0.8g, 0atm. Completely and utterly frozen. At least 1 notable moon, probably more. Also Asteroid Belt with several planetoids. Like the Cuiper belt, right? Would make sense that something like that is in this system aswell.

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Is that alright?
Almost ready to start working on the planet!
So, the moon problem ahould be solved now: One larger moon, further away from the planet, in an almost perfect equatorial orbit. Formed like our Moon was likely formed: A big collision of protoplanets.
The second, smaller moon, in a perpendicular orbit to the other moon and the equator. Closer to the planet, so the moons appear to be roughly the same. Used to be a dwarf planet, catched by the planet's gravity into a weird orbit.
The moons line up once in a while, causing huge tides and floods. Is that alright?
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« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2012, 07:28:38 am »

Sounds ok to me
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« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2012, 07:30:29 am »

Sounds alright.
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