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A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« on: November 15, 2012, 09:23:00 am »

             There’s something I’d like to share/write about before I lose the guts to do so. I was motivated by a combination of posts on this forum about being honest on the internet and that telling a bad truth is better than a sweet lie. I might come off as an asshole or a whiner, but if in the end what I wrote was deep from the heart and how I really feel, then no criticism I might expect for writing something (I only assume) controversial. It’s about my life, and how powerless I feel.

             First, I hate my parents. My father is a hardcore alcoholic. Being sober is somewhat of an anomaly for him. He lost his job because of it. He constantly argues with my mother, which really gives you a lot of stress when you have to deal with it every single day, for over a decade, thinking that he might come for me with a knife in a drunken rage is terrifying and I came close to it twice. He used to beat my mom, but somewhat stopped now. As a father he was never there for me despite living under the same roof. All interaction between him and me is really him ordering me to do stuff or shouting at me. I have only one happy memory (And I’m actually surprised I remember this as I was less than six at that time) I was being pulled by my arms on wooden floor with my socks on so that I could slide. His drinking wouldn’t bother me that much if he was a father to me and not some statue. As a result of this I had no male role model, and don’t really feel like a man.

             My mother, who I resent even more than my alcoholic father. Her methods are more subtle than my fathers, more passive-aggressive I should say. She hates my father, wishes him death in front of me, insults him constantly, and all that parental estrangement you can imagine. Why won’t she leave him I can’t imagine, because no one can be that messed up to like picking fights constantly where both parties and up acting like children and insulting each other’s families. I can only imagine she stayed because my father owns the house we live in. The arguments started when I was very little. My father before losing his job earned a lot of money, yet I always wore hand-me-downs, never had enough books for school, never could afford a school trip unless my grandma payed for it, but I digress. My father earned a lot of money, and my mother loaned a lot of money, and basically got all of us bankrupt to the point we could only afford paying for the house and basic necessities, but electricity and gas were often cut. Which is ridiculous, because with the amount of money my father earned we should have plenty. This is a thing I’ll never understand. Why she did it. But then again what are little financial troubles when you have loving mom right? Not so lucky here either. I basically don’t exist to her. The first hug I got in my life was in highschool, from a female friend. I read somewhere average people get at least 10 minutes of conversation daily. I get 2. If I’m lucky. And it’s always exchange of “how was school?” “fine” “wash the dishes” “clean the room”. When she came back from my school to check in with my teachers how I’m doing she would say something like “you are close to failing 3 subjects, correct it” and go on with her day. She never helped me with homework, and the like. And it’s still better than it was years ago. Now she has a job and people to talk on the phone with. She used to just sleep all day and was very fat. Outside of my room which I clean sometimes (I’m a rather messy person) the entire house is a big rotting, stinking, dirty dump, like the ones you’d see on TV. Only recently did I discover people should wash more often than once a week  like she would do with me when I was little. Talk about parents teaching their children hygiene. You know I really am hurt, that my mother doesn’t know who I am, tries to estrange me from my father (and is successful), never supports me, and would allow her children to go out at midnight, get drunk and wouldn’t bat an eyelash . (didn’t happen, but I do walk out at midnights for a stroll in the park, or to hang out with my friends. It was my siblings that got a free pass to underage drinking)

             Secondly there is me. A total mess, but hey, everyone’s a mess to some degree right? That is not the problem for me. I freakin love being alive! It’s just that I feel stuck and without agency, and I’m trying to find out why. I completely can’t take a grip on my life. As a middle child I always act compliant, always getting out of everyones way, and let people walk over me. No self-respect or willpower at all. Now that I’m supposed to enter adult life on my own two feet, I don’t feel adult enough for the challenge, I’m scared of it. When I was a little kid in elementary school I was bullied by another kid, that had ADD (or just was that way ADD is prone to being misdiagnosed). When I tried to tell my mother she didn’t listen to me and didn’t do anything about it. This and a couple of other things build a foundation of never trying or being able to communicate with my parents, and coming home with lifeless eyes and suicidal fantasies made me someone who acts stoic, with a façade that everything is fine, but late at night I cry when no one looks. I don’t think it’s innapropriate, after all I don’t feel the need to “man up”, and it help relieve a lot of build up stress. Another thing I hate about myself is my addiction to computer. I know I’m addicted, and it’s the reason why I never studied, or socialized. Also because of my hate towards my father, I swore to never drink, smoke or take drugs, and believe me it is a stupid thing to do in highschool. If anyone reading this tried to give up smoking but couldn’t maybe they will understand my addiction with computer. I want to stop but it’s stronger than me. I like to associate it with my mother giving me all the freedom when I was a kid, because when you have an option of doing homework or playing video games, most people choose video games, if both options are seemingly without short term consequence.  I never learned how to bond also. My siblings being my older brother who is the star of the family and someone I’m always compared to, and my younger sister who can get away with a lot, and is showered with gifts and attention, I myself didn’t get (because presumably she is 8 years younger so I was “too old” to receive affection). I don’t know these people. How strange it is to hear people in real life or in movies show or describe their loving relationship with their family, and being unable to comprehend what that’s like.

Why am I writing this wall of text? Well like all posts of this sort I felt the need to vent, to share it, hope for understanding and advice.

I feel so alone in this. Being uncaring starts to bother me. The fact I think I would be fine with being homeless, makes me thing I might be wasting my life, so I want to change it. I went to a therapist once a long time ago. I was in dirty clothing because mom didn’t do laundry that day. Now I would call it neglect, but he said next time I should come in clean, scolded me for it even, asked if I wanted to take meds, and handed me a receipt (is that what you call them in English? He gave me a piece of paper with what meds to take) for antidepressants and that was it. So yeah, bad first experience with therapy. By the way those meds just made me not give a shit about anything. Uncaring =/= happy.

Suicide hotlines? Also useless. I don’t want to off myself. Most of those are USA, or UK, no one I know of in where I am (Poland). And those that are are for kids. And I passed 18 already. FML. I can only hope, that eventually, when I move out I’ll find good therapy (Not really counting on it though, after first experience with a colossal dick.).
« Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 09:27:21 am by Rooster »
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 10:45:31 am »

Do you still live with them? Getting out of the house at 17 was the best thing I ever did, and my parents aren't half as bad as yours.
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 11:04:43 am »

Yes, I still live with them. I'll move out in spring, thanks to money my grandma gave me, possibly with a friend to share rent.
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 11:37:05 am »

Good for you! Hang in there until spring. You've got something to look forward to, no?
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 11:52:10 am »

Sometimes life sucks, but it'll pass.  Just keep trucking on until you're able to GTFO of there :)
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 12:31:14 pm »

I can only agree. Being responsible for yourself and your life is the best thing that can happen to you. Why should someone be responsible for you if he is clearly not able to handle his own life? Keep going buddy and greetings as a neighbor from Germany  :)
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 05:16:18 pm »

Your post shows a well developed ability to see things in perspective, and a strong will. That what does not kill you, makes you stronger.
Just suffer those slings and arrows a bit longer, for I am sure that once you are living on your own, you will find that place in life, where you want to be.
Spring is near. Start dreaming and making cool plans for once you do live on your own.

Or if you feel adventurous, check out one of those employment offices in Poland that can send you to work and live in Holland for a few months. You'll earn at least minimum Dutch wage, which is quite a bit higher than in Poland. There's a lot of Polish people temporarily working here in Holland. What I understand from them, they can save up quite a bit, and are having a good stay. I know quite a few who have come for a lot of years in a row already, because they liked it. Your excellent English skills would give you a great edge over many other applicants.
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 10:26:48 pm »

Thank you all for words of encouragement

Martinuzz: I learned english from (oh the irony) spending way too much time on youtube and video games. I'd like to move out, and I just might do that, once I gather the courage.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 07:09:13 am »

Thank you all for words of encouragement

Martinuzz: I learned english from (oh the irony) spending way too much time on youtube and video games. I'd like to move out, and I just might do that, once I gather the courage.

For a child of your age, your english is really really good. I'm serious.
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Re: A tale of Middle child seeking a suicide hotline
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 07:27:49 am »

Thank you all for words of encouragement

Martinuzz: I learned english from (oh the irony) spending way too much time on youtube and video games. I'd like to move out, and I just might do that, once I gather the courage.

For a child of your age, your english is really really good. I'm serious.
(S)he's over 18, that's an adult in most countries. But his/her English is rather good.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 07:48:16 am »

Born in december 1993 to be exact.
English is the most developed academic skill I have. I participated in a lot (and won some) school competitions in english. I picked up some german watching anime on german TV channel rtl 2.

And that's it really. Foreign languages is my area of expertise. I sucked at everything else in school.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 06:40:08 pm »

Like others said, you seem to be resilient and coping really well to begin with. You didn't get addicted to drink or drugs like your peers did. Honestly, a computer addiction could be worse and it's probably taught you to see the world in a broader view (hooray internet!). Now it's time to make the hard decisions and take the leap into the real world to see if you can succeed. Where you come from doesn't matter. It'll effect you, sure, but it basically has no bearing on the possibilities you'll have in future life. Go forth and be awesome!
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 09:19:30 pm »

Foreign languages is my area of expertise. I sucked at everything else in school.

Heh, same here. I learned to talk English the way I do now when I was like 15 years old. I was able to fully understand English by reading (not by hearing) when I was like 11. I'm learning sign language now and hopefully will learn German after that. I may be forced to learn Latin because of school too.

You should try yourself in new languages. They can be a good way to earn money if whatever you are planning for your future doesn't happen (yeah, that's me) or it can be just a plain hobby. Most developing countries require a lot of translators.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 12:50:15 am »

@Caz: Thank you. You paint me better than I see myself though.

@Leatra: I picked up some german, but I can only understand it, I'd only butcher everything I say. Cool, taking sign language? I'd love to  learn it too someday, but the fact that different countries have different sign language, is pretty scary, since I only want to learn one. But probably ASL, or whatever the equivalent is in UK.

Could you elaborate how knowing languages is a good way to earn money? Because over here it's hammered into me that having a university diploma in English is useless and will make you at the very most an English teacher.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 02:04:14 am »

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Could you elaborate how knowing languages is a good way to earn money? Because over here it's hammered into me that having a university diploma in English is useless and will make you at the very most an English teacher.

Language teachers can actually find good work in the right places. With a degree you could maybe get a job in the US teaching Polish, American universities always need language teachers. Or maybe you should focus on your German, since that could open up employment possibilities in Germany. If you've got a real talent for language, apply it.

What kind of self-sufficiency skills do you have? Have you ever paid bills, even glanced at places to rent, ever considered what the real cost of living is or know how to cook and clean for yourself? Have you ever held down a job? Cause that's all adult stuff, and were I you I'd let it motivate me to GTFO by taking those responsibilities on. You also need to accept the PC for what it is right now: it's what takes your pain away. That's why you go to it. But to be an adult is to accept a degree of pain and discomfort because it enables you to get the things you want: privacy, independence, deep non-family relationships and hopefully comfort. You get a job, make decisions for yourself and face the consequences when you're wrong. The point is, you can't be passive. And it reads like you've been passive your whole life.

You say you don't feel like you have any agency, but you're on the cusp of that changing. In truth, it's been there long before being an adult and you've chosen not to act on it. If you've never had a job that's your first real step. Even a crappy job you don't like will give you some of that agency you need. Your grandparents (who do seem like they care about you) have helped you get started and spared you some of the growing pains of just saying "Fuck it, I'll be homeless until I figure things out." I'm not throwing any stones, I still fear a good deal of adult shit and I was pretty passive too growing up. But I got a job at 15 and had several by the time I was 18.

I mean, think about it. A place that isn't filthy. A place you're happy and proud to bring people to hang out at. No one's drama but your own and the space and peace to work through it. In time you'll get perspective on your family and form some other meaningful relationships with actual affection in them.

What you lack is purpose and goals, and the very beginning steps of taking control of your life are simple things, simple goals that grow into bigger and more important goals. If you lack the basic adult skills, start there.

Make a rule for yourself: Between the hours of x and y, you work at stuff. You make phone calls, read ads for jobs, apply, get a bank account, check bus routes for where you need to go, and get out of the house. Be active. After y time, the computer is your reward for a day's work. You're in charge of every moment of your life from this point on. You've always been, you just wouldn't reach for it. Again, I'm not coming down on you, I was the same in a lot of ways growing up and still am. At my parents house I'm kind of a slob, but when I have my own place I actually keep it really clean. That's the mentality of living under someone else's roof, you're a slob because the place is ultimately theirs and you don't give a fuck in the end. You'd be amazed how many of those habits and mindsets change once you're in YOUR own space.

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