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Glowcat

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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #450 on: November 30, 2012, 11:23:35 pm »

Not much of one, because feminism has never been about female supremacy outside of fringe/radical parts of the movement and such isn't implied by the name, but more than currently exists.

Much like Misko's questioning, do you have any examples? I've been trying to think of somebody outside the troll Femitheist Divine but I can't recall anybody who has seriously tried using Feminism to advocate for giving women more advantages than men.

EDIT: I guess there's the older satirical work of the SCUM Manifesto.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #451 on: November 30, 2012, 11:24:54 pm »

I still suspect Femitheist is genuine, just mentally ill.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #452 on: November 30, 2012, 11:46:07 pm »

Not much of one, because feminism has never been about female supremacy outside of fringe/radical parts of the movement and such isn't implied by the name, but more than currently exists.

Much like Misko's questioning, do you have any examples? I've been trying to think of somebody outside the troll Femitheist Divine but I can't recall anybody who has seriously tried using Feminism to advocate for giving women more advantages than men.
Nah, nothing I can remember. I barely remember any particulars about the movement and would probably have to start digging out notes (which are currently ~300 miles from me) to even recall specific names.

One of my professors while I was getting the BA had worked under one of the... sorta' more recent ones (not a major name, per se, but not an unknown one.), who did some writing on the female orgasm fairly recently (as academia goes), so m'professor was fairly familiar with the movement at large and did some talking about it here and there as th'course in question progressed (Philosophy of science, iirc. Subject came up in relation to methodology, really, as previous -- male dominated -- research into th'female orgasm had... problems. Problems you could -- and she did -- drive trucks through.).

S'came up in other places, too, but... yeah. Not really my field, m'afraid. Know a fair, if cursory, bit about the basics of the movement's history, but not well enough to spout it off without some refresher research.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #453 on: November 30, 2012, 11:47:58 pm »

I've done some research into the female orgasm. ^_^
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #454 on: November 30, 2012, 11:51:04 pm »

In other news, it's difficult to cook Gammon without oil.  :-\

Edit : I put it t'you, m'lud, that Frumple be using th'King's Conjugation.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #455 on: November 30, 2012, 11:52:10 pm »

Well, let's put it this way MZ. Your research was probably more methodologically sound than most academic research into the subject before quite recently, in a relative sense. Lot of the oft-cited or predominate theories were... they had issues. Just terrible science, all around. Genuine and well founded statistics on th'subject are a lot more in line with reality nowadays.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #456 on: December 01, 2012, 12:39:45 am »

Huh. Maybe I should get a grant and do some real research. That seems right up my alley, seriously.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #457 on: December 01, 2012, 12:41:20 am »

Huh. Maybe I should get a grant and do some real research. That seems right up my alley, seriously.
Can I help? As scientific Volunteer.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #458 on: December 01, 2012, 12:43:39 am »

Huh. Maybe I should get a grant and do some real research. That seems right up my alley, seriously.
Can I help? As scientific Volunteer.
Hmm. Maybe I could probe your brainmeats in comparison to a lady's brainmeats to see if they do different things during orgasm. I have noticed a distinct difference in quality between the two genders.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #459 on: December 01, 2012, 12:44:22 am »

Meh.
I don't really like feminism as the concept that it has taken on, so the way she constantly brings it up grates a bit.

EDIT: Wording for clarification

You don't like the concept of individuals being judged by their individual attributes rather than by arbitrarily assigned gender roles?
No, I don't like men being put down and judged just for being men.

This is a completely accurate portrayal of feminism.

*Hsssss*

WTF did I just read?
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #460 on: December 01, 2012, 12:45:41 am »

Huh. Maybe I should get a grant and do some real research. That seems right up my alley, seriously.
Can I help? As scientific Volunteer.
Hmm. Maybe I could probe your brainmeats in comparison to a lady's brainmeats to see if they do different things during orgasm. I have noticed a distinct difference in quality between the two genders.
Misko would like to rephrase, a Research assistant.
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« Reply #461 on: December 01, 2012, 01:00:51 am »

This is a completely accurate portrayal of feminism.

*Hsssss*

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« Reply #462 on: December 01, 2012, 01:09:35 am »

I like her comics, I just wish I wasn't too unstudied to get half of her probably excellent historical jokes.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #463 on: December 01, 2012, 01:18:19 am »

No, I don't like men being put down and judged just for being men.

This is a completely accurate portrayal of feminism.
Understood slightly differently, this is arguably true - many feminists also do not like men being put down and judged just for being men, because they see such judgment as being a symptom of exactly the same problems that make feminism necessary in the first place, and believe that it violates the actual insight the philosophy provides. In other words, a feminist could quite reasonably say, because they are* a feminist, "No, I don't like men being put down and judged just for being men".

*This is totally a legit gender-neutral singular pronoun.
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Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« Reply #464 on: December 01, 2012, 01:55:50 am »

Unless you were a hardcore feminist and held a grudge.

In which case a re-ordering of society would probably be right up there in the 'vengeance' list.
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